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#81 User is offline   NighthawkChris 

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Posted 30 October 2017 - 01:18 PM

View PostdReit1, on 30 October 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

Check under the hay stack. There should be one in between the needle and the hen's teeth. [biggrin]


Yeah, it is truly a rare guitar. If you come across this, throw the money down! Last time I saw one available was on "The Verb" going for around $1.5k... I have had aspirations for other guitars at the time, but before it was too late, the Little Lucille sold. Not that I had any intention of buying this guitar as I have never played one before... Just to note it seems like quite a collector's gem if you ask me - especially for a Blueshawk aficionado.
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Posted 31 October 2017 - 10:22 AM

The Little Lucilles where hard to find even when the Blueshawk was a shelf item. I had one for a short time but foolishly let it slip away. I called the guy I sold/traded it to yesterday and was told bluntly "No f..n way!" Seems he has it in a glassed in wall case and never plays it. [cursing]
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Posted 31 October 2017 - 11:14 AM

View PostdReit1, on 31 October 2017 - 10:22 AM, said:

The Little Lucilles where hard to find even when the Blueshawk was a shelf item. I had one for a short time but foolishly let it slip away. I called the guy I sold/traded it to yesterday and was told bluntly "No f..n way!" Seems he has it in a glassed in wall case and never plays it. [cursing]


Yeah, that's a true kick in the junk man... I send my sympathy to you... Well, hopefully you run into one and make the purchase last. Just reading your post makes me feel the despair you might be feeling when you think back. In that sense, I suppose there is some sort of empathy I feel for your situation.
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#84 User is offline   dReit1 

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 11:00 AM

Ha Ha! Don't feel bad for me Chris. I only called him because you were looking. I went through 6 Blueshawks and the Lucy back in 2005-06. I liked them but had trouble finding a keeper. That Lucille wasn't a great guitar. It was Ok, but lacked that little something that makes the difference between a joy to play and a nice piece to hang on the wall. I guess we all have our own things that make the magic happen. Tone. Feel. Looks. Whatever trips the trigger.
That Lucille didn't do it for me. And I guess for him either as he put it in a wall case and just looks at it. [unsure]

IIRC The big thing that sent that Little Lucille on it's way was me having access to a real Lucille. The Little one just didn't cover the sound. I don't know if it was the pickups, the body wood or it's size, but it wasn't what I was looking for. So it left. And while I kept looking for a Blueshawk until I found the one I kept, I never really went after a Little Lucy again.

If I was wanting one now, I think I would buy one of the new EPI BHs and create a Lucille from that. The mahogany body might make a difference. You can find the Varitone switch and other parts. After looking at the new Lucilles with the Granadillo/richlite board and 490/498 pups I think that train has left the station for me.

But if I run across a nice older one...

Cheers. Doug
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Posted 02 November 2017 - 05:12 AM

View PostdReit1, on 01 November 2017 - 11:00 AM, said:

Ha Ha! Don't feel bad for me Chris. I only called him because you were looking. I went through 6 Blueshawks and the Lucy back in 2005-06. I liked them but had trouble finding a keeper. That Lucille wasn't a great guitar. It was Ok, but lacked that little something that makes the difference between a joy to play and a nice piece to hang on the wall. I guess we all have our own things that make the magic happen. Tone. Feel. Looks. Whatever trips the trigger.
That Lucille didn't do it for me. And I guess for him either as he put it in a wall case and just looks at it. [unsure]

IIRC The big thing that sent that Little Lucille on it's way was me having access to a real Lucille. The Little one just didn't cover the sound. I don't know if it was the pickups, the body wood or it's size, but it wasn't what I was looking for. So it left. And while I kept looking for a Blueshawk until I found the one I kept, I never really went after a Little Lucy again.

If I was wanting one now, I think I would buy one of the new EPI BHs and create a Lucille from that. The mahogany body might make a difference. You can find the Varitone switch and other parts. After looking at the new Lucilles with the Granadillo/richlite board and 490/498 pups I think that train has left the station for me.

But if I run across a nice older one...

Cheers. Doug


Thanks for looking out Doug! A guy at the local guitar shop knows how much of a NH enthusiast I am, so he mentioned the Little Lucille should be another guitar I should add to my collection. So I was curious and noticed how rare this thing actually was... Anyhow, I sincerely appreciate the thoughtfulness and insight about this guitar on your behalf. I hope your "real" Lucille is doing alright Posted Image
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Posted 11 January 2018 - 02:15 PM

Gibson BluesHawks and Epiphone Blueshawks.. About a year ago I bought a blue sapphire Epiphone Blueshawk. I was looking for a Gibson, but they were ranging in price from 700 to 1500 plus shipping.. Anyway I finally found a black 97 G-BH about a month ago with a hardcase and free shipping.. I have been really enjoying playing it and comparing it to my E-Bh. I love playing both of them and have great difficulty deciding which one to play, they sound great.

The E-Bh is not an exact copy of the G-BH but very close.

The E-Bh is a little heavier with a slightly wider neck with binding.

I have both guitars pickups setup for max volume (as close as possible to the strings) the E-Bh (P-90 Pro with adjustable poles) is a bit louder but the G-BH (Blues 90 with fixed poles) is a little brighter.

The E-Bh bridge plate is slightly thicker and wider.

The E-Bh 3-way switch clicks when in position and has kind of dead spots in between, the G-BH 3-way switch is much smoother.

The VariTone switch feels and reacts about the same.

The hum cancelling seems to work a little Better on the E-Bh.

The volume and tone pots look almost identical.

The Epiphone Deluxe Tuners wore out after about 6 months, I replaced them with Grover 135N's that are very similar but with nut bushings. They should have installed the Wilkinson tuners like on the other high end Epi's..

The Gibson Deluxe Tuners are very solid on the G-BH.

The E-Bh string nut was defective, the string slots high end next to the headstock not the finger board causing the plain strings to buzz. Replaced..

I have both the recomended Gibson and Epiphone SG hardshell cases, the Epiphone SG hardshell case fits very loose, the Gibson Deluxe SG hardshell case fits both much better. .... I also have a Gibson Chainsaw Case for a Les Paul, which fits both BluesHawks perfectly.

I am not so much a blues player as I mostly play metal.. These P-90's absolutely scream through a 1/2 stack.. Definite ear damage with a full stack. Even my Deluxe with a Celestion would do a lot of carnage if it wasn't aimed at my ankles. I have several guitars all with P-90's, the sound they get is like a really nasty Strat. I prefer the double cut configuration.. But, having to work a little harder for the high notes on a BluesHawk/Blueshawk is not a problem, balanced out by the tonal expansion and the lower noise aided by the hum canceling dummy coil.

I really love playing my BluesHawk's and I could not part with either one.. [thumbup]

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 02:02 PM

The Gibson Chainsaw Case for a Les Paul is the best fitting case I have found so far for the BluesHawk. If you can see my attached image, the inside of the case lower and mid bouts are connected which fits the BluesHawk perfectly, without following the Les Paul contour.. Gibson seemed to call it the Protector or Protector Plus, but it looks like a chainsaw case so that's what most people call it... Gibson has not made this case for several years, so the only ones you can find are used, but its a very tough case and my BuesHawks love it..

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If anyone knows of another hardshell case that actually fits the Hawk, BluesHawk, NightHawk or even the Little Lucille. Please leave a response here..

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