Rabs Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 And at a fairly decent price for once (well compared to most the usual artist models) (notice that reversed pup) http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Gary-Moore-Les-Paul-Standard.aspx $3,582 •Mahogany body with figured grade-AA maple top •Mahogany neck with rounded ’50s profile •Granadillo fingerboard with acrylic trapezoid inlays •BurstBucker Pro pickups in the neck and bridge positions •Orange Drop tone capacitors •TonePros™ Kluson green-key tuners with 16:1 ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennis Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Very nice. any opinions on why he reversed the neck pickup? I believe maybe the slug coil has a slightly higher output, making the tone it gives just a little bit warmer.. I've tried it, and couldn't really tell that much difference. looks neat though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Gary was a mean drunk & said my dog was ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted April 23, 2013 Author Share Posted April 23, 2013 Very nice. any opinions on why he reversed the neck pickup? I believe maybe the slug coil has a slightly higher output, making the tone it gives just a little bit warmer.. I've tried it, and couldn't really tell that much difference. looks neat though Yeah I think its meant to have some sort of out of phase sound "The neck pickup of Green's Les Paul was magnetically reversed (North and South poles of the pickup magnet were actually backwards relative to a "normal" Les Paul neck pickup). This gave his "in-between" tone a very unique, almost "sour" tonal character - "Need Your Love So Bad" and "Love That Burns" are both great examples of this unique guitar tone." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennis Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Yeah I think its meant to have some sort of out of phase sound "The neck pickup of Green's Les Paul was magnetically reversed (North and South poles of the pickup magnet were actually backwards relative to a "normal" Les Paul neck pickup). This gave his "in-between" tone a very unique, almost "sour" tonal character - "Need Your Love So Bad" and "Love That Burns" are both great examples of this unique guitar tone." just turning the pickup 180° doesn't set it out of phase, you'd need to reverse it's polarity, or simply switch the ground and output connectors, to get an out-of-phase sound. I believe Peter Green's Paul had one of the pickups wound in the opposite direction by accident. I've got out-of-phase with optional series or parallel installed on my Midtown. Great sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Again? rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I guess it's for the people who didn't get the Peter Green model. lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 If you have not heard the story of the Peter Green (and later Gary Moore) Les Paul - you should Google it. It's quite and interesting tale. FWIW, I flip the neck pup of my LPs around too - though not to get and out-of-phase tone. That would take flipping the magnets like Peter reportedly did or a Jimmy Page type switching scheme. Personally if I want to get a Tele type sound, I'll use a Tele and not an LP. My reason for flipping the pickup is that puts the adjustable pole pieces closer to the middle. Then, by raising them, I can subtly reduce the bassy, woofiness of the neck pickup. Makes more sense to me that way. It's not a huge difference, but I prefer it. Try it. You might like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennis Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 If you have not heard the story of the Peter Green (and later Gary Moore) Les Paul - you should Google it. It's quite and interesting tale. FWIW, I flip the neck pup of my LPs around too - though not to get and out-of-phase tone. That would take flipping the magnets like Peter reportedly did or a Jimmy Page type switching scheme. Personally if I want to get a Tele type sound, I'll use a Tele and not an LP. My reason for flipping the pickup is that puts the adjustable pole pieces closer to the middle. Then, by raising them, I can subtly reduce the bassy, woofiness of the neck pickup. Makes more sense to me that way. It's not a huge difference, but I prefer it. Try it. You might like it. Very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Wonder if it has a long tenon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Wonder if it has a long tenon? Yes, but it's reversed. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I saw that beauty on one of the Musikmesse pictures. Very, very nice! I am very tempted. Unfortunately, I have to follow the one-guitar-per-year rule. Definitely the website says "reversed pickup" and doesn't mentions out-of-phase. That's bad. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D28boy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Gary was a mean drunk & said my dog was ugly. actually Gary told me that you were ugly and your dog was a mean SOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I wouldn't say it was well priced. Really, it's just a studio with a nice top. Hence it's more expensive in reality than the other artist models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveg Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Wes tried reversing the pickup on his L5. I seem to remember that he thought that moving the pole pieces away from the harmonic would improve things. He didn't keep it that way for long. DG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Wow... a reproduction of a 59 Les Paul. This time in a tasteful burst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderchild Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 actually Gary told me that you were ugly and your dog was a mean SOB did he say any thing about AXE's tenon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I wouldn't say it was well priced. Really, it's just a studio with a nice top. Hence it's more expensive in reality than the other artist models. I couldn't agree more. $3.5k for a prettied-up studio? Crazy. And even the 'nice top' is just a regular AA. I agree that it's in a Very Nice Colour but what, exactly, is so special about the specs? They've put the neck pup on back-to-front and mis-matched the knobs. Somehow this makes it an Artists' Sig? P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Not even based on historic specs. No ABR - No long tenon. pffft! Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Ah yes! I was blinded by Her beauty... Now, - looking at the specs -, well... that's a Studio, not a Standard. Which is not anything that's bad at all, for - let's say - 1000$ worth of Euros. But 3500$ is indeed very funny. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc3c46 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I couldn't agree more. $3.5k for a prettied-up studio? Crazy. And even the 'nice top' is just a regular AA. I agree that it's in a Very Nice Colour but what, exactly, is so special about the specs? They've put the neck pup on back-to-front and mis-matched the knobs. Somehow this makes it an Artists' Sig? P. True. Here's mine: * LP Standard faded $1400 * BKP PG Blues pickups (Out of phase in middle pos ) $300 * Mismatched knobs $20 A total of $ 1720 !! Case closed. 3.5 k is just ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Your's is even better because, as Bence pointed out a bit earlier, the new Sig hasn't even got a flipped magnet - they've simply turned the p'up around! (And I always had a soft spot for the Standard Faded in any case) Gibson should have re-introduced that guitar instead of this one IMHO... P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 This whole "signature" thing is out of control in the first place. I just don't get it TBH.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryUK Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I've looked and it says it's a Standard. Which it's not. It's deceiving as it looks like it has body moulding. But it's just the maple top showing. Plus. It's not even a rosewood board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 +1. Binding on both the body and the neck are two of the distinguishing features which separate the Standard from the Studio. To call this model a Standard is almost fraudulent. I don't have any problems accepting the Granadillo 'board, however. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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