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Peter Frampton LP Custom - anyone own one?

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Posted 13 October 2018 - 11:27 PM

View PostMarshall Paul, on 03 November 2014 - 05:50 AM, said:

The issue of the specs on the original FCA guitar can (finally) be cleared up if anyone is interested. The guitar is a '54 Custom....and that's where the similarity ends. What happended was this. It obviously survived throughout the '50s and most of the '60s, through many hands, primarily intact as is,until...someone(?) decided he wanted to covert it to a Black Beauty. So the router came out and, bingo, a third pup was installed. Now, remember if you can, the hot item pups back then making the end of '60s and early '70s rock sound were the 490R and 498T's (the original hot alnico sisters). Comming on the tail of these, early '70s, were the 496R and 500T hot ceramic sisters. All the hot axe men of the time were playing around with these pups. So, when the third route was done.....(wait for it!)....installed were brand new pups from the factory, and they were as follows. 496R neck, 498T mid, and a thumping 500T bridge. Although the pole pieces on the 498 didn't exactly line up, it still worked. The reason for the line up like that was the resistance and the power (keep in mind, this was all they had to play around with output power wise at the time, so these four pups were the hottest ticket out). Now, by this time Steve aquires the instrument (when exactly, no-one knows but the point is he's got it now). He gives it to Pete (very generous fellow!) and pete falls in love. Plugged through Pete's chain and then the amps and cabs and you had that very distinctive Frampton sound. Then the axe dies ( a moments silence please). But Pete and Gibson don't know what the pups were except for the bridge (500T). This was because at one time Pete had the 500T re-soldered at the factory (keep in mind, it's an old instrument and wiring does degrade). So, they knew what the bridge was but not what the other two were. When Gibson re-built a new guitar for Pete every one assumed that because of the age of the guitar that it would have had '57s in it (remember the age...big clue). So, the next one had the "57, '57+, 500T configuration, and everything following including everything everybody is getting now is that way. Who out there has aquired one of the signiture models, played it and thought, "Yeah, close,......but?" This is why. I have. Reason for the true identity of the other two? Shortly after Pete was given it, it wound up in the factory having some unrelated work done on it (re-fretting actually). The guy who worked on it peeked at everything else in it just to be thorough. He shortly after left Gibson for other work. But, HE knew.So, if you and anyone else want's to REALLY replicate Pete's FCA sound, buy a nice ebony Custom, a set of 496, 498 and 500 pups, find a good lutier, and have him do what the original went through. Then you'll have a real Frampton guitar. Trust me, it's worth it, I have two converted myself, and I know what the real sound was. I was around when Pete was in Humble Pie, Camel and when he went solo and I was around when FCA came out. Oh, and by the way, the newer models don't have the original period vol/tone knobs that were on the FCA guitar. Speed knobs didn't come out until after then. Apart from the pups and knobs, everything else on these signiture models IS correct.Speculation and arguments cleared up guys, it's now up to you.p.s. By the way, closely related. Anyone wanting to replicate the real rock sound of the '70s, it's quite simple and straight forward. Buy a Les Paul Standard, rip the new pups out (and sell them to some wood duck on ebay!) and put in either the 490R/498T alnico sisters or the 496R/500T ceramic sisters. Easy! Don't mess around with trying to replicate the sound with these tweaked modern variations that only come close, go straight to the source. Gibson still make them, and for a very good reason! Just stop for a moment and think why that is.Sorry for the tome, nuff said.
You can Google that info easily, different years had different style cases. The case I have for mine came in 2015 which was the brown Lifton Custom Shop reissue case with pink lining.You'll see some that had his signature in gold on a black shroud with black liner in a black case, some with black case and white lining, some with burgundy lining etc.
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