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Epiphone Limited / Custom Shop ???

#1 User is offline   drzing 

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:16 AM

The other day I was checking out some instruments, just looking for something new,
and I saw this pretty something-burst SG with a batwing pickguard it had an imprint
in the back of the headstock - Epiphone Limited/Custom Shop, when you go to Gibsons
site there is no Epi Custom Shop (as there is Gibson's), in the end, that guitar is
not even catalogued by the Gibson site, what is the meaning of that mark, where are
these guitars made, or are these just limited production instruments?

Do these really have anything different or significantly better than a regular Epi?
I know some do have special pickups, do they keep a better value over time than a
regular Epiphone?

Please, fill me in, I didn't even try it because when I like a guitar, it might be
a financial problem.

Cheers!

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 05:14 AM

 drzing, on 03 May 2013 - 03:16 AM, said:

The other day I was checking out some instruments, just looking for something new,
and I saw this pretty something-burst SG with a batwing pickguard it had an imprint
in the back of the headstock - Epiphone Limited/Custom Shop, when you go to Gibsons
site there is no Epi Custom Shop (as there is Gibson's), in the end, that guitar is
not even catalogued by the Gibson site, what is the meaning of that mark, where are
these guitars made, or are these just limited production instruments?

Do these really have anything different or significantly better than a regular Epi?
I know some do have special pickups, do they keep a better value over time than a
regular Epiphone?

Please, fill me in, I didn't even try it because when I like a guitar, it might be
a financial problem.

Cheers!


More than likely, these are made in China just as all Epiphones are , but that's not to say that they're bad guitars because they're not. It just means that they're limited editions. It could be limited because of the color more than likely or have Gibson pickups in it. Your best bet is to either try it out, or read the reviews on it. Good luck. Either way, I don't think you'll be disappointed .

#3 User is offline   antwhi2001 

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:22 AM

Epiphone custom shop = limited edition. There is no specific manufacturing department like Gibsons.
Epi G400 / Gibson Les Paul faded doublecut with P90s, 2004 / Gibson Les Paul Custom Lite, 2013 / Fender Tele standard 2006 / Fender Tele Thinline JA-90, 2013/ Squier Japanese Strat with 2x Kinman noiseless and 1x Kent Armstrong humbucker, 1986 / Arbiter Matsumoko Flying V, late 1970s / Boss GT-10 multiFX / Area 51 Wah / Tech 21 PE60 cab / Laney EA65 combo

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:35 AM

 Old Rocker 59, on 03 May 2013 - 05:14 AM, said:

More than likely, these are made in China just as all Epiphones are


Well, not to get nit picky, but there are still a number of Epiphones made in Korea...

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 12:02 PM

 Hombre, on 03 May 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

.......and Indonesia



Custom-shop or limited edition in Epi languange is....
sometimes it's just another color or some minor difference to regular models...

There is no Epi custom-shop, they are made side by side with all the other Epis

It is just a sticker


Oh, I love Indonesia-made Epi's. Better than China or USA epi/gib's.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:32 PM

Also worth noting that:

Limited Edition = Manufactured for specific time frame (6 months/12 months/etc) run size could be anything from 1 to 1,000,000 depending on orders (No production figures available from Epiphone/Gibson)

Limited Run = Specific number of guitars produced (production figures available)
My current Setup:
Genevieve - My Epi Les Paul Standard in Natural fitted with BB Pros
Dot Studio in faded cherry with GFS Mean 90 in neck and Gibson 57 Classic in bridge.
Home built 52 style tele with matched custom wound Bare Knuckle 'Yardbirds'
Epi BC30 fitted with NOS '61 RCA Blackplates and a '59 Mullard GZ34
Strat style bitsa affectionately known as the plank
Korean Tanglewood TW400N acoustic
EJ200CE Super Jumbo
AXL Player Bass

Very little talent & big dreams!

http://www.soundclick.com/ianwigg

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:58 PM

 drzing, on 03 May 2013 - 03:16 AM, said:

The other day I was checking out some instruments, just looking for something new,
and I saw this pretty something-burst SG with a batwing pickguard it had an imprint
in the back of the headstock - Epiphone Limited/Custom Shop, when you go to Gibsons
site there is no Epi Custom Shop (as there is Gibson's), in the end, that guitar is
not even catalogued by the Gibson site, what is the meaning of that mark, where are
these guitars made, or are these just limited production instruments?

Do these really have anything different or significantly better than a regular Epi?
I know some do have special pickups, do they keep a better value over time than a
regular Epiphone?

Please, fill me in, I didn't even try it because when I like a guitar, it might be
a financial problem.

Cheers!


As others have said there is no "custom shop" per se. Usually it means limited runs with special colours or hardware, etc. Not a lot of added value with the CS designation.
My Stuff:

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| 2011 Epiphone EB-0 Bass | 2011 Epiphone Casino | 1985 Fender Stratocaster, HH, MIJ |
| 2009 Gibson J45 | 2006 Gibson SG Special | 2004 Gibson LP Std, Iced Tea
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Marshall Bass Combo 30, 15" spkr | Marshall Valvestate VS30R |
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Mesa Boogie 5:25 Express | Fender Champion 600 | Epiphone Valve Jr |
| 2010 Stentor Violin | Walton Bohdran | 2010 Epiphone MM30e Mandolin |



More pics here:

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#8 User is offline   crust 

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 03:24 PM

 UCSF2012, on 03 May 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

Oh, I love Indonesia-made Epi's. Better than China or USA epi/gib's.

I like playing a well made guitar. The Indonesian made LP Jr's I've played have been great guitars.

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:58 AM

 Hombre, on 03 May 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

Limited Editions with available production figures...

Genesis Deluxe Pro 500 pieces each color
1962 Sheraton 50th anniversary 1962 pieces each color
TV Silver series up to 1000 pieces each model
and some more....


According to the customer service person I spoke to at Epiphone these are classed as Limited Run models. Yes they have the Limited Edition stamp but they are produced in a numerically limited number of pieces (and advertised as being so at the outset).

Models which are simply advertised as Limited Edition with no stated numerical limit are produced during a pre decided time scale and production is limited purely on the basis of orders received for that model during it's production run. No production figures are available for these (outside of Epiphones internal systems)
My current Setup:
Genevieve - My Epi Les Paul Standard in Natural fitted with BB Pros
Dot Studio in faded cherry with GFS Mean 90 in neck and Gibson 57 Classic in bridge.
Home built 52 style tele with matched custom wound Bare Knuckle 'Yardbirds'
Epi BC30 fitted with NOS '61 RCA Blackplates and a '59 Mullard GZ34
Strat style bitsa affectionately known as the plank
Korean Tanglewood TW400N acoustic
EJ200CE Super Jumbo
AXL Player Bass

Very little talent & big dreams!

http://www.soundclick.com/ianwigg

#10 User is offline   zeplin 

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 05:16 AM

 Hombre, on 04 May 2013 - 03:26 AM, said:



Yes but not all limited editions are for set numbers of units.

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This is a limited edition because of the colour and black hardware, 2000 classic quilttop. Made right alongside every other classic. No limited production numbers. No real collectiblilty. LEs may carry a little more value but not really an investment.
My Stuff:

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| 2011 Epiphone EB-0 Bass | 2011 Epiphone Casino | 1985 Fender Stratocaster, HH, MIJ |
| 2009 Gibson J45 | 2006 Gibson SG Special | 2004 Gibson LP Std, Iced Tea
|
|
Marshall Bass Combo 30, 15" spkr | Marshall Valvestate VS30R |
|
Mesa Boogie 5:25 Express | Fender Champion 600 | Epiphone Valve Jr |
| 2010 Stentor Violin | Walton Bohdran | 2010 Epiphone MM30e Mandolin |



More pics here:

http://s50.photobuck...986181571924126



#11 User is offline   zeplin 

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 08:26 AM

 Hombre, on 04 May 2013 - 07:22 AM, said:

Where did I say all ?


All the ones you mentioned. What is your point?
My Stuff:

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| 2011 Epiphone EB-0 Bass | 2011 Epiphone Casino | 1985 Fender Stratocaster, HH, MIJ |
| 2009 Gibson J45 | 2006 Gibson SG Special | 2004 Gibson LP Std, Iced Tea
|
|
Marshall Bass Combo 30, 15" spkr | Marshall Valvestate VS30R |
|
Mesa Boogie 5:25 Express | Fender Champion 600 | Epiphone Valve Jr |
| 2010 Stentor Violin | Walton Bohdran | 2010 Epiphone MM30e Mandolin |



More pics here:

http://s50.photobuck...986181571924126



#12 User is offline   zeplin 

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 10:33 AM

 Hombre, on 04 May 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

My point is....

What Wiggi said is not correct - and I showed some examples to proof it

Is it that hard to read ?


What was incorrect? He mentioned limited runs and limited numbers in his first paragraph. Is that hard to read? Others are produced until they decide otherwise whether designated as limited run or limited edition, which is the stamp they use.
My Stuff:

Posted Image

| 2011 Epiphone EB-0 Bass | 2011 Epiphone Casino | 1985 Fender Stratocaster, HH, MIJ |
| 2009 Gibson J45 | 2006 Gibson SG Special | 2004 Gibson LP Std, Iced Tea
|
|
Marshall Bass Combo 30, 15" spkr | Marshall Valvestate VS30R |
|
Mesa Boogie 5:25 Express | Fender Champion 600 | Epiphone Valve Jr |
| 2010 Stentor Violin | Walton Bohdran | 2010 Epiphone MM30e Mandolin |



More pics here:

http://s50.photobuck...986181571924126



#13 User is offline   wiggy 

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 06:20 PM

Hey guys

Hombre and I were just clarifying some semantic differences - no need to get wound up about it.

I'm sure he'll say the same.
My current Setup:
Genevieve - My Epi Les Paul Standard in Natural fitted with BB Pros
Dot Studio in faded cherry with GFS Mean 90 in neck and Gibson 57 Classic in bridge.
Home built 52 style tele with matched custom wound Bare Knuckle 'Yardbirds'
Epi BC30 fitted with NOS '61 RCA Blackplates and a '59 Mullard GZ34
Strat style bitsa affectionately known as the plank
Korean Tanglewood TW400N acoustic
EJ200CE Super Jumbo
AXL Player Bass

Very little talent & big dreams!

http://www.soundclick.com/ianwigg

#14 User is offline   zeplin 

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:40 AM

Peace.
My Stuff:

Posted Image

| 2011 Epiphone EB-0 Bass | 2011 Epiphone Casino | 1985 Fender Stratocaster, HH, MIJ |
| 2009 Gibson J45 | 2006 Gibson SG Special | 2004 Gibson LP Std, Iced Tea
|
|
Marshall Bass Combo 30, 15" spkr | Marshall Valvestate VS30R |
|
Mesa Boogie 5:25 Express | Fender Champion 600 | Epiphone Valve Jr |
| 2010 Stentor Violin | Walton Bohdran | 2010 Epiphone MM30e Mandolin |



More pics here:

http://s50.photobuck...986181571924126



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