Gibson Guitar Board: Nerve Damage in hand/arm - Gibson Guitar Board

Jump to content

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Nerve Damage in hand/arm

#21 User is offline   brad1 

  • Resident Tin Whacker
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4449
  • Joined: 23-January 08
  • LocationNorthern California

Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:23 PM

View Postbigneil, on 24 July 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

HopeI sliced thumb once. Cut the nerve, lost alll sensation down one side off it. Just when I was starting to worry that it might stay that way forever, it came back to life , tingling and burning hot and cold at times, then it just sort came back by its self. Took 9 months in total.
Hope
I hope it is not too serious or permanent. .. Might just need time.

That's interesting Neil. I know that sometimes it does take time for things like this to heal.
But during this Summer break from school, it sure would be nice to play my guitars. In a few weeks I won't have the time.
Thanks for your encouraging words and concern. [biggrin]
Life's Distractions/Pleasures:
2006 Epiphone Ebony G400, 1997 Epiphone Cherry SG Junior, 2007 Epiphone Cherry Dot, 1996 Fender Black MIM Traditional Stratocaster, 2008 VM Squier Olympic White SSH Telecaster,
2011 Jackson Gun Metal Gray JS32R Dinky (FR), 2014 Gibson Fireburst Satin SGJ14
1985 George Washburn Dreadnought, 2005 Ibanez Trans-Blue Burst GSR200 FM Bass, VOX AD30VT, Fender Super Champ XD. Acoustic B100 Bass Amp


My Music ----> http://soundcloud.com/bradley-e

#22 User is offline   brad1 

  • Resident Tin Whacker
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4449
  • Joined: 23-January 08
  • LocationNorthern California

Posted 24 July 2013 - 01:28 PM

View Postkidblast, on 24 July 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

Hi Brad,, I have it too (carpal), both hands.

A cortisone shot in the right wrist relieved my situation when it flared up a few years ago, and that held for quite sometime But I went thru the whole diagnosis process back then and that determined I was a borderline surgical candidate.

but the Doc that would do it said she'd never operated on a musician before and didn't know what my long term results would be in terms of dexterity.

Bottom line, I declined, and I'm living with it.. for me it's worse in the mornings. by afternoon / evening, I don't seem to notice it.

I can get another shot if I want to, but it's not really been that bad.

btw. I did have the nerve test,, it didn't really freak me out,, the neurosurgeon who did it remarked that I must have a tolerance, cuz most people tell him to stop before he's done. it is a weird procedure,, that much I'll agree... I found it fascinating.. "I'm going to move your fingers now....." woa...

Thanks kidblast for telling me about your own story. Hope it gets better for you.
I think I would have done the same as you. Surgery is not one of my first considerations.
And that nerve test does sound completely fascinating! :)

So far.....it's not getting any better for me.
Life's Distractions/Pleasures:
2006 Epiphone Ebony G400, 1997 Epiphone Cherry SG Junior, 2007 Epiphone Cherry Dot, 1996 Fender Black MIM Traditional Stratocaster, 2008 VM Squier Olympic White SSH Telecaster,
2011 Jackson Gun Metal Gray JS32R Dinky (FR), 2014 Gibson Fireburst Satin SGJ14
1985 George Washburn Dreadnought, 2005 Ibanez Trans-Blue Burst GSR200 FM Bass, VOX AD30VT, Fender Super Champ XD. Acoustic B100 Bass Amp


My Music ----> http://soundcloud.com/bradley-e

#23 User is offline   Digger 

  • Resident Old Fart
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8891
  • Joined: 14-February 08
  • LocationS.E. Australia

Posted 24 July 2013 - 03:15 PM

View Postbrad1, on 24 July 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Thanks kidblast for telling me about your own story. Hope it gets better for you.
I think I would have done the same as you. Surgery is not one of my first considerations.
And that nerve test does sound completely fascinating! :)

So far.....it's not getting any better for me.

Mrs Dig found the nerve test very painful indeed!

#24 User is offline   bonzoboy 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3510
  • Joined: 20-September 09
  • LocationEast Coast of Newfoundland,Canada

Posted 24 July 2013 - 09:16 PM

Hi Brad,after spending over 3 years now with Carpal Tunnel Cubital Tunnel and Raynaud's Syndromes as well as a yet undiagnosed neuro-muscular condition I can certainly empathize with you.From the way you caused injury to your elbow,I strongly suggest that you get your elbow investigated closer,it is quite possible that you did damage to the ulnar nerve that passes through a groove in your elbow.It is believed now that a big part of the source of my nerve damage is in my ulnar nerve,as it sometimes slips out of the groove that it passes through in the bones of my elbow thus exacerbating any previous damage that was done.A lot of this damage was caused by working with oscillating and vibrating hand tools plus years of weight training and heavy lifting.Another suspected cause was excessive time spent playing guitar without doing warm up and cool down exercises as well as stretches to keep fatigued and tight muscles relaxed and supple.Anyway it wouldn't hurt to get the elbow investigated just in case-good luck and I hope you get your playing up to speed soon.

BTW,don't push things and stop and stretch your hands at the first signs of pain or fatigue and walk away from the guitar for at least a couple of hours,for a few days at first anyway.
Epiphone John Lennon '65 Casino,Natural Casino,Epi. G400 Custom,Epi. EJ160E John Lennon,Epi.Custom Shop Firebird sunburst,Vox Phantom XII,Mk VI Acoustic,Astro IV Bass Model V273.Hagstrom Corvette&Mk II.'66 Gretsch Tennessean.various Fenders&other guitars&s.

#25 User is offline   brad1 

  • Resident Tin Whacker
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4449
  • Joined: 23-January 08
  • LocationNorthern California

Posted 25 July 2013 - 08:21 AM

View Postbonzoboy, on 24 July 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

Hi Brad,after spending over 3 years now with Carpal Tunnel Cubital Tunnel and Raynaud's Syndromes as well as a yet undiagnosed neuro-muscular condition I can certainly empathize with you.From the way you caused injury to your elbow,I strongly suggest that you get your elbow investigated closer,it is quite possible that you did damage to the ulnar nerve that passes through a groove in your elbow.It is believed now that a big part of the source of my nerve damage is in my ulnar nerve,as it sometimes slips out of the groove that it passes through in the bones of my elbow thus exacerbating any previous damage that was done.A lot of this damage was caused by working with oscillating and vibrating hand tools plus years of weight training and heavy lifting.Another suspected cause was excessive time spent playing guitar without doing warm up and cool down exercises as well as stretches to keep fatigued and tight muscles relaxed and supple.Anyway it wouldn't hurt to get the elbow investigated just in case-good luck and I hope you get your playing up to speed soon.

BTW,don't push things and stop and stretch your hands at the first signs of pain or fatigue and walk away from the guitar for at least a couple of hours,for a few days at first anyway.

Thank you so much for telling your story. You have given me some good info to think about.
Thank You also for giving me some good advice regarding warming up and stretching.
I appreciate your kind comments and concern. :)
Life's Distractions/Pleasures:
2006 Epiphone Ebony G400, 1997 Epiphone Cherry SG Junior, 2007 Epiphone Cherry Dot, 1996 Fender Black MIM Traditional Stratocaster, 2008 VM Squier Olympic White SSH Telecaster,
2011 Jackson Gun Metal Gray JS32R Dinky (FR), 2014 Gibson Fireburst Satin SGJ14
1985 George Washburn Dreadnought, 2005 Ibanez Trans-Blue Burst GSR200 FM Bass, VOX AD30VT, Fender Super Champ XD. Acoustic B100 Bass Amp


My Music ----> http://soundcloud.com/bradley-e

#26 User is offline   kidblast 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3599
  • Joined: 29-March 12
  • LocationCentral Mass (U.S.A.)

Posted 25 July 2013 - 08:30 AM

View PostDigger, on 24 July 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

Mrs Dig found the nerve test very painful indeed!


it certainly was not among the most pleasant of things you can have done.

#27 User is offline   kidblast 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3599
  • Joined: 29-March 12
  • LocationCentral Mass (U.S.A.)

Posted 25 July 2013 - 08:35 AM

View Postbrad1, on 24 July 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Thanks kidblast for telling me about your own story. Hope it gets better for you.
I think I would have done the same as you. Surgery is not one of my first considerations.
And that nerve test does sound completely fascinating! :)

So far.....it's not getting any better for me.


Hi Brad,

it comes and goes for me. If I'm doing a lot of heavy lifting or construction sort of work around the house, I can almost guarantee a flare up is soon to follow.

usually ( day by day ) the most annoying half of it, is waking up in the middle of the night and most of the fingers on one of your hands are numb. The nerves run in two paths from what I gather, thumb, index and middle finger, the other path is ring finger and pinky.

I do also notice in the a.m. if I'm sitting down to play some piano, after 15 / 20 minutes, I need to stop, my left hand's fingers will start that "tingling" thing.. but only in the morning. It's survivable.. when it gets bad, I will have to think about doing something.

Good luck with yours.. See if you can ask about a cortisone shot if it's really bothering you.

#28 User is offline   Digger 

  • Resident Old Fart
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8891
  • Joined: 14-February 08
  • LocationS.E. Australia

Posted 25 July 2013 - 03:10 PM

View Postkidblast, on 25 July 2013 - 08:35 AM, said:

Hi Brad,

it comes and goes for me. If I'm doing a lot of heavy lifting or construction sort of work around the house, I can almost guarantee a flare up is soon to follow.

usually ( day by day ) the most annoying half of it, is waking up in the middle of the night and most of the fingers on one of your hands are numb. The nerves run in two paths from what I gather, thumb, index and middle finger, the other path is ring finger and pinky.

I do also notice in the a.m. if I'm sitting down to play some piano, after 15 / 20 minutes, I need to stop, my left hand's fingers will start that "tingling" thing.. but only in the morning. It's survivable.. when it gets bad, I will have to think about doing something.

Good luck with yours.. See if you can ask about a cortisone shot if it's really bothering you.

Sounds a bit like Carpel Tunnel to me KB!

#29 User is offline   brad1 

  • Resident Tin Whacker
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 4449
  • Joined: 23-January 08
  • LocationNorthern California

Posted 27 July 2013 - 09:40 PM

The tingling is not happening quite as often today, and with less intensity. Less pain in the elbow also.
I played about 45 minutes on my G400 last night. And played some basketball today.
Thanks everyone for all the great information you gave me. I still may need it.
You guys are great! =D> [biggrin]
Life's Distractions/Pleasures:
2006 Epiphone Ebony G400, 1997 Epiphone Cherry SG Junior, 2007 Epiphone Cherry Dot, 1996 Fender Black MIM Traditional Stratocaster, 2008 VM Squier Olympic White SSH Telecaster,
2011 Jackson Gun Metal Gray JS32R Dinky (FR), 2014 Gibson Fireburst Satin SGJ14
1985 George Washburn Dreadnought, 2005 Ibanez Trans-Blue Burst GSR200 FM Bass, VOX AD30VT, Fender Super Champ XD. Acoustic B100 Bass Amp


My Music ----> http://soundcloud.com/bradley-e

#30 User is offline   kytty 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1184
  • Joined: 17-February 11

Posted 27 July 2013 - 10:51 PM

Great to hear you're on the mend Brad.
Maybe a few days of rest is all it needed,

#31 User is offline   matiac 

  • Just. Keep. Breathin'.
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5392
  • Joined: 02-February 08

Posted 28 July 2013 - 04:46 AM

1 spinal fusion, and 2 cortisone epidurals later, I STILL have problems. Thing that SUCKS about the fusion is while yeah, it fixed A problem, it created 5 more. Numb fingertips, shooting pain in left arm from shoulder to fingers, painful "pop" in my neck right at the base of my skull if I have to turn my head in either direction, tingly arms, and this nagging persistant ITCH in my left arm that I apparently scratch in my sleep based on all the sores on my left arm. Oh yeah, forgot to mention the rather hideous scar right on the front of my neck...people actually think I got slashed. Idiots.
www.soundclick.com/TheFullSkinny
www.soundcloud.com/matiac

The "Moral Majority" is neither.

#32 User is offline   kidblast 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3599
  • Joined: 29-March 12
  • LocationCentral Mass (U.S.A.)

Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:22 PM

View PostDigger, on 25 July 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

Sounds a bit like Carpel Tunnel to me KB!


yea man it's absolutely CT. in a previous thread (this one got long) I mentioned that.

thing is,, I can manage it for now, with out having anyone take a knife to it..
I'll take that all day long Digger.. all day..

/Ray

#33 User is offline   kidblast 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 3599
  • Joined: 29-March 12
  • LocationCentral Mass (U.S.A.)

Posted 29 July 2013 - 01:23 PM

View Postbrad1, on 27 July 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:


Thanks everyone for all the great information you gave me. I still may need it.
You guys are great! =D> [biggrin]


Hey Brad, definitely great news that it's taking a back seat.

Hopefully it continues. Rock on brother!

/Ray

#34 User is offline   Aster1 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2086
  • Joined: 11-January 10
  • LocationIowa

Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:43 AM

Any update or improvement on the nerve damage Brad?

Just check'n & hoping it's better

Aster
"Life is too dang short to eat ratty tast'n peaches!"

#35 User is offline   Pete B 

  • Advanced Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 472
  • Joined: 07-June 11
  • LocationUK

Posted 09 August 2013 - 08:39 PM

I damaged nerves in my left hand just by plugging in a lead on a sensor to my engine, my lh first two fingers were numb for years. I, after a while realised that my fingers worked again and and then I caught GaS!! Swings 'n roundabouts [flapper]

#36 User is offline   damian 

  • The Guitar Whisperer
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 9099
  • Joined: 23-October 10
  • LocationIn The Misty Mountains With My Black Dog

Posted 11 August 2013 - 02:45 AM

Posted Image
I use Atlas Stands because they are the best................. http://www.facebook.com/atlasstands ......American Made.......Rewind Pickups; MIA and the Best.......
.....................Codtone Pedals from OZ......................................." Ya'll remove hats, please "...................................Motor City Pickups......................................
.................................." I hate it when people compare god with jimmy page, I mean, he's good and all, but he's no jimmy page."..................................
Music Consultant, Songwriter........................................ - THE MENSA PRETZEL LOGIC PROJECT - .............................. Advocate for the Disabled, Gentle Hellraiser.

" It occured to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception." Einstein on his theory of relativity.
" Music is a higher relevation than all wisdom and philosophy. Music is the electrical soil in which the spirit lives, thinks and invents." Ludwig von Beethoven
" There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.' Johann Sebastian Bach
" Playing scales is like a boxer skipping rope or a punching bag. It's not the thing itself; it's preparatory to the activity." Barney Kessel
" After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." Aldous Hoxley
" There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have crossed this line." Pianist Oscar Lavant
" Music came before language; musical grunts became words." Damian (copyright)
" I know how to get there, all I've got to do is keep playing." Jimmy Page
" Without music, life would be a mistake." Friedrich Nietzsche
" Music is an outburst of the soul." Fredrick Deluis
" Rock and Roll forever, man." Unknown
" Damian's cool." NeoConMan
" WTF ??? " dem00n
Posted Image

#37 User is offline   eggs 

  • I BLame it On Brad
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8910
  • Joined: 05-September 08
  • LocationSydney, Australia

Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:31 AM

I have heard that you can get RSI from hoovering [unsure]
Stuart

1998 Epiphone (Unsung) Ripper Bass - 'Crazy Chester'
1999 Epiphone (Samick) 'fenderish' Nighthawk - 'The Vulture'
1999 Epiphone (Samick) Sheraton- 'Honey'
2000 Epiphone (Samick Indonesia) AJ-100- 'Big Red'
2000(?) Lobo Mini G- 'The Mystery Midget'
1998 Epiphone Electar Tube 30 Combo
1999 Epiphone Regent Bass 50 Combo
Vox AC4TV Head & V112TV Cabinet
Yamaha P70 Electric Piano
Tascam DP-03 Portastudio


Recently Separated:
1995 Epiphone (Samick) Non Reverse Thunderbird Bass - 'The Weirdbird'
1997 Epiphone (Samick) Les Paul Junior - 'Junior' - Signed by The Man Himself
2007 Epiphone (QingDao) G400 Flame Top-'QingDao Lass' - Too young, but oh so pretty!
1981 Ibanez AR100BS Artist- 'Baby'
1981 Ibanez Ragtime Special w/ Barcus Berry Underbridge PUP
1994 Fender (MIJ) Telecaster - 'The Black Sheep'
Marshall G80RCD 80 watt Combo - I just needed some valves!


Lust List:
A mid 1990s 'Blondie' Rivoli Bass with a Big Fat Mudbucker

#38 User is offline   damian 

  • The Guitar Whisperer
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 9099
  • Joined: 23-October 10
  • LocationIn The Misty Mountains With My Black Dog

Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:36 AM

View Posteggs, on 11 August 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

I have heard that you can get RSI from hoovering [unsure]


What is RSI ?
.
I use Atlas Stands because they are the best................. http://www.facebook.com/atlasstands ......American Made.......Rewind Pickups; MIA and the Best.......
.....................Codtone Pedals from OZ......................................." Ya'll remove hats, please "...................................Motor City Pickups......................................
.................................." I hate it when people compare god with jimmy page, I mean, he's good and all, but he's no jimmy page."..................................
Music Consultant, Songwriter........................................ - THE MENSA PRETZEL LOGIC PROJECT - .............................. Advocate for the Disabled, Gentle Hellraiser.

" It occured to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception." Einstein on his theory of relativity.
" Music is a higher relevation than all wisdom and philosophy. Music is the electrical soil in which the spirit lives, thinks and invents." Ludwig von Beethoven
" There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.' Johann Sebastian Bach
" Playing scales is like a boxer skipping rope or a punching bag. It's not the thing itself; it's preparatory to the activity." Barney Kessel
" After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." Aldous Hoxley
" There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have crossed this line." Pianist Oscar Lavant
" Music came before language; musical grunts became words." Damian (copyright)
" I know how to get there, all I've got to do is keep playing." Jimmy Page
" Without music, life would be a mistake." Friedrich Nietzsche
" Music is an outburst of the soul." Fredrick Deluis
" Rock and Roll forever, man." Unknown
" Damian's cool." NeoConMan
" WTF ??? " dem00n
Posted Image

#39 User is offline   Digger 

  • Resident Old Fart
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8891
  • Joined: 14-February 08
  • LocationS.E. Australia

Posted 11 August 2013 - 03:56 AM

View Postdamian, on 11 August 2013 - 03:36 AM, said:

What is RSI ?
.


It's like CSI but retrospective-

#40 User is offline   eggs 

  • I BLame it On Brad
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8910
  • Joined: 05-September 08
  • LocationSydney, Australia

Posted 11 August 2013 - 04:18 AM

View PostDigger, on 11 August 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

It's like CSI but retrospective-

If it's retrospective hoovering you desire [biggrin]


Stuart

1998 Epiphone (Unsung) Ripper Bass - 'Crazy Chester'
1999 Epiphone (Samick) 'fenderish' Nighthawk - 'The Vulture'
1999 Epiphone (Samick) Sheraton- 'Honey'
2000 Epiphone (Samick Indonesia) AJ-100- 'Big Red'
2000(?) Lobo Mini G- 'The Mystery Midget'
1998 Epiphone Electar Tube 30 Combo
1999 Epiphone Regent Bass 50 Combo
Vox AC4TV Head & V112TV Cabinet
Yamaha P70 Electric Piano
Tascam DP-03 Portastudio


Recently Separated:
1995 Epiphone (Samick) Non Reverse Thunderbird Bass - 'The Weirdbird'
1997 Epiphone (Samick) Les Paul Junior - 'Junior' - Signed by The Man Himself
2007 Epiphone (QingDao) G400 Flame Top-'QingDao Lass' - Too young, but oh so pretty!
1981 Ibanez AR100BS Artist- 'Baby'
1981 Ibanez Ragtime Special w/ Barcus Berry Underbridge PUP
1994 Fender (MIJ) Telecaster - 'The Black Sheep'
Marshall G80RCD 80 watt Combo - I just needed some valves!


Lust List:
A mid 1990s 'Blondie' Rivoli Bass with a Big Fat Mudbucker

Share this topic:


  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users