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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:27 PM

Could anyone tell me the difference between a Les Paul Classic and Classic Custom? Aside from just specs, is one higher priced? Do they still make both? I saw 2 of them for sale recently but was curious what the difference is and what they both retail for new.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:14 PM

A Classic is more like a Traditional with a 60s neck and hot pickups the 469R and 500T..

The Classic Custom was more like a custom lite if you were with a diamond headstock inlay and triple binding and I think they had 57 Classics in them.


Or something like that.. Neither model is made any more.. both very different beasts there but both GREAT guitars :)
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:24 PM

Basically, the LP Classic, is based on a "Standard," spec wise, with hotter 500T
and 496R Ceramic pickups, and some varying traits, depending on the era it was/is
produced in. Mine has the wider binding, in the cutaway. Earlier models, as
well as later versions, have the narrower binding, in the cutaway. Some say "Les
Paul Model" on the headstock, and some (again, like mine) say "Les Paul Classic."
Some models had the "aged" fret makers, like mine...other's don't.

My (1999) "Classic" LP: "Honeyburst"
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http://www2.gibson.c...sic-Custom.aspx
The LP "Classic Custom," is based on the LP Custom, without the back body binding.
It is NO longer in production. Was a "limited production edition," at it's inception.
Came "stock" with Classic '57 pickups, and Chrome hardware, with acrylic neck
position markers, and headstock inlays, and "baked maple" fingerboard. Hence,
the considerable price difference, to the LP Custom. It IS, however, and outstanding
guitar, all the way around! (I know, I own the one...in "Gold Top!"...below.)

2011 Classic Custom "Gold Top"
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Exact spec's you can look up, on various sites...including Gibson's.

Oh, and I payed pretty much the same price, for both of mine, new! Albiet, 12 years
apart...the Classic Custom, being the last purchase.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:44 PM

View Postcharlie brown, on 26 August 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Basically, the LP Classic, is based on a "Standard," spec wise, with hotter 500T
and 496R Ceramic pickups, and some varying traits, depending on the era it was/is
produced in. Mine has the wider binding, in the cutaway. Earlier models, as
well as later versions, have the narrower binding, in the cutaway. Some say "Les
Paul Model" on the headstock, and some (again, like mine) say "Les Paul Classic."
Some models had the "aged" fret makers, like mine...other's don't.

My (1999) "Classic" LP: "Honeyburst"
Posted Image


Posted Image

http://www2.gibson.c...sic-Custom.aspx
The LP "Classic Custom," is based on the LP Custom, without the back body binding.
It is NO longer in production. Was a "limited production edition," at it's inception.
Came "stock" with Classic '57 pickups, and Chrome hardware, with acrylic neck
position markers, and headstock inlays, and "baked maple" fingerboard. Hence,
the considerable price difference, to the LP Custom. It IS, however, and outstanding
guitar, all the way around! (I know, I own the one...in "Gold Top!"...below.)

2011 Classic Custom "Gold Top"
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Exact spec's you can look up, on various sites...including Gibson's.

Oh, and I payed pretty much the same price, for both of mine, new! Albiet, 12 years
apart...the Classic Custom, being the last purchase.

CB


Thanks for the info. I was considering a Classic for around 1500?
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:06 PM

View PostEpiphone Artist, on 26 August 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

Thanks for the info. I was considering a Classic for around 1500?


Well, they can vary, quite a bit, price wise. Depending on year(s)
made, specific (more sought after) spec's, etc. And, of course,
overall condition. But, 1,500 seems "ok,"...I've seen them for less,
and, a LOT more, too. $1,400 is what I paid for mine New, years ago.
It was an OK deal=price, but probably not "great," back then. But, it
was EXACTLY what I was looking for, at that time, right down to the
type of figured top. So....

Good Luck...they are awesome Les Paul's! [thumbup]

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:49 PM

I know nothing about a Les Paul Classic. But I do own a Classic Custom.
I think it's a great guitar. Well made and high quality.
Perhaps to get the baked maple in peoples hands but that's just speculation.


So one difference I know is the fretboard.
If you prefer ebony over rosewood consider the Classic Custom.
The baked maple is hard and fast like ebony. If not, go for the Classic.

Or better yet, play them both and see what you like.

I could never buy a guitar based on someones opinion.
I have to play it first.


Good luck.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:57 AM

I had never heard of the Classic Custom until now - very interesting! [thumbup]
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:14 AM

In the UK a 1960 Classic for $1500 would be considered to be a bargain. Not sure about the going rate where you are. It also depends on the year the guitar was made.

As CB hinted in post #3 the earlier versions were slightly differently built compared with those later on. 1994 - 1995 seem to be the transition years with some features found on both models.
The original idea was to make something half-way between a Standard and the recently introduced 1959 re-issue but with hotter p'ups and a slimmer neck profile.
These '89 to around '95 examples tend to be priced higher than the later ones BUT any increase in value of the earlier ones is often balanced out on some of the later ones having fancier tops such as CB's gorgeous instrument pictured above.
The original intention was for the Classics to be all 'Plain-Top' but, again from around '94, Plus and Premium-Plus maple was used more frequently.

The dating system is simple.
The '89 ones were stamped 9 XXX ('1989 and production number); 1990 - 1999 were Y XXXX (where Y was the last digit of the year number) and from 2000 - 2006 they went (0Y XXXX as before)

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

Discontinuing the LP Classic was a dumb move on Gibson's part.
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:03 PM

View Postpippy, on 27 August 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:



The dating system is simple.
The '89 ones were stamped 9 XXX ('1989 and production number); 1990 - 1999 were Y XXXX (where Y was the last digit of the year number) and from 2000 - 2006 they went (0Y XXXX as before)

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Must be 2000 - 2008 because the serial number of the black classic in question starts with 08 and my 2007 LPC starts with 07... Just sayin'... :rolleyes:
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:15 PM

My "1960" 1997 Classic also starts with 7. [smile]
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:26 PM

View Postdaveinspain, on 27 August 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Must be 2000 - 2008 because the serial number of the black classic in question starts with 08 and my 2007 LPC starts with 07... Just sayin'... :rolleyes:

OOPS!

Didn't check. Memory not what it, erm,,,, eh..... pardon?
Yes, of course it's 2000 - 2008.
My bad!

Nor did I notice any reference to a black Classic so my eyesight is obvioucy gionx wrung tuu.

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EDIT : Saw the second thread with the ebony-finish Classic.
I'd not pay $1500 for a black Classic from 2008 but YMMV.
I DID, OTOH, love this bit in the sales pitch;
"Here's a link to a guy playing the Classic pretty well. If you buy this guitar, you'll be able to play just like him."
Is he offering a money-back guarantee on that point?......

And Dave! I notice from your post in that thread your (clearly very happy) 07 is in 'Cheeryburst"! Nice!

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