Sitedrifter Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Hey everyone! I noticed that depending on what J200 I am looking the guitar may come with Fishman electronics or LR Baggs. Not every using or hearing these brands (My Taylor has their own ES system and my Yamaha has it's own SRT system) I would like to know which electronics set is better and why? Thanks for your input! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Don't think there's a lot of difference . mine has the fishman ( someone will give the exact year they switched ) which works as well as any under saddle pickup . doesn't have a soundhole volume control which is a bit of a pain in the *** , but no biggie. Do you play solo or in a band situation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Im a big Fishman supporter, really like their products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitedrifter Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 I play for personal enjoyment but I like to plugin so my neighbors can hear me :D I also play at gatherings of friends but by no means am I a professional or even a seasoned amateur. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemaster03 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I have the older Fishman in my Taylor, it has more control than the Baggs but it has the big preamp in the side of the guitar. No way that would fly on my Gibsons. The Baggs Element works OK, but I run them through a Fishman Aura preamp/DI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR GIBS Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 My favourite system fr the moment is K&K Trinity Mini. As to the hesitation between L.R. Baggs and Fishnam I vote for Fishmat with both hands. Go for the Fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacamartin Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 My new LG-2 has the Baggs element, my L-130 has the Fishman. The Fishman has the "quack"....the Baggs has much less of the "quack". Both work great, the Baggs also has the volume control inside the sound hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherofpearl Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 The j200 comes with the aura if I'm not mistaken. That pickup has alot more options but if your a basics kind of guy like me you'll prefer the baggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kebob Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I vote Fishman all the way. I have the Fishman Aura in my J200 and am very happy with it. I have a Baggs M1A soundhole pickup in another guitar and I've never been able to get the nasally honk out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitedrifter Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share Posted September 18, 2013 are both the Baggs and Fishman controls mounted in the sound hole (underside of top)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissouriPicker Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I've got LR Baggs in my J45, J60 and Dove and a Fishman in one of my Epi guitars. I think they're pretty similar. Both do the job. Some Braggs and Fishman pickups are better than others. Comes down to what our ears like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 are both the Baggs and Fishman controls mounted in the sound hole (underside of top)? Mork calling Orson mork calling Orson My fishman doesn't have a soundhole control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR GIBS Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I vote Fishman all the way. I have the Fishman Aura in my J200 and am very happy with it. I have a Baggs M1A soundhole pickup in another guitar and I've never been able to get the nasally honk out of it. 100% my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I have a Baggs M1A soundhole pickup in another guitar and I've never been able to get the nasally honk out of it. Exactly my experience also with that Pup ! However I would add having the Aura Spectrum DI makes a huge differnce in taking all the piezo quack away and providing a fuller tone when using the UST pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Exactly my experience also with that Pup ! However I would add having the Aura Spectrum DI makes a huge differnce in taking all the piezo quack away and providing a fuller tone when using the UST pups. Is it taking it away aussie or just covering it up ? Suppose it doesn't matter , I'd love the cash to throw into one of those jobbies that duluthdan has. The m1 - do you think it doesn't mix with a Gibson sound or did you try it on the other guitars too ? I'm not arguing with your opinion just wondering if you hear the same annoying quality when you listen to other people using them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Is it taking it away aussie or just covering it up ? Suppose it doesn't matter , I'd love the cash to throw into one of those jobbies that duluthdan has. The m1 - do you think it doesn't mix with a Gibson sound or did you try it on the other guitars too ? I'm not arguing with your opinion just wondering if you hear the same annoying quality when you listen to other people using them ? I would say it takes it away without compromising the tone, actually making it thicker as you run it through the DI feature of the spectrum. With the M1a I find its the same on all guitars as its portable and Ive tried on a few including the Cort and Martin. I just find it has that phasey, almost electric tone that takes away the natural tone of the acoustic. Make up your own mind, do you hear piezo quack, this is at quite high volume in a large room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I would say it takes it away without compromising the tone, actually making it thicker as you run it through the DI feature of the spectrum. With the M1a I find its the same on all guitars as its portable and Ive tried on a few including the Cort and Martin. I just find it has that phasey, almost electric tone that takes away the natural tone of the acoustic. Make up your own mind, do you hear piezo quack, this is at quite high volume in a large room. Sounds grand Aussie. What if you ran an M1 through the DI though? Sounds like I'm being a bit of a tube , but I genuinely have little knowledge of all these set ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Sounds grand Aussie. What if you ran an M1 through the DI though? Sounds like I'm being a bit of a tube , but I genuinely have little knowledge of all these set ups. It might sound better but this DI was specifically designed for UST pups BBG. I just dont like the magetic nature of the M1A and the resulting tone it delivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It might sound better but this DI was specifically designed for UST pups BBG. I just dont like the magetic nature of the M1A and the resulting tone it delivers. Fair enough. I'll add the DI box to things to check out if I ever get around to changing the electrics in the guitar. Cheers Aussie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drathbun Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I don't like any under-saddle pickup system (UST). Systems that use a sound board transducer (SBT) are much superior in authentic acoustic sound IMO. I've owned and installed quite a few Baggs iBeam SBT pickup systems and I love the warmth and acoustic presence. Even the combo system from Baggs, the iMix, which is a combination of a UST and a SBT doesn't cut it for me as I keep the blend all the way to the SBT. Some UST's are better than others but they all have a brashness to them that I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kebob Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Fair enough. I'll add the DI box to things to check out if I ever get around to changing the electrics in the guitar. Cheers Aussie I tried running my M1A through several routes and never could EQ the honk out of it. I tried it through a DI box. I tried it through a Baggs Venue DI with EQ -- still very honky. I just don' think it pairs well with Gibson's mid-rangy sound, especially the J-45's mid ranginess. I finally put the M1A in my Larrivee D3 dread and it sounds less honky, but still there. I'm going to sell it. On the other hand, I have both the Fishman Ellipse Aura and Ellipse blend pickups in two of my gitars and they both sound fantastic. Just my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I tried running my M1A through several routes and never could EQ the honk out of it. I tried it through a DI box. I tried it through a Baggs Venue DI with EQ -- still very honky. I just don' think it pairs well with Gibson's mid-rangy sound, especially the J-45's mid ranginess. I finally put the M1A in my Larrivee D3 dread and it sounds less honky, but still there. I'm going to sell it. On the other hand, I have both the Fishman Ellipse Aura and Ellipse blend pickups in two of my gitars and they both sound fantastic. Just my experience. What does the ellipse aura do differently ? I looked up the installation guide and it appears (to my stupid eyes) that its just an under saddle pickup with on board adjustments . Thanks for the input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 What does the ellipse aura do differently ? I looked up the installation guide and it appears (to my stupid eyes) that its just an under saddle pickup with on board adjustments . Thanks for the input Same technology as the Aura Spectrum except its installed into the pickup control mechanism of the guitar. Best to take a look at the vid to get the idea of how it works, and compare the UST output with just piezo and then blended with the Aura tool. http://www.fishman.com/product/aura-spectrum-di Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Same technology as the Aura Spectrum except its installed into the pickup control mechanism of the guitar. Best to take a look at the vid to get the idea of how it works, and compare the UST output with just piezo and then blended with the Aura tool. http://www.fishman.com/product/aura-spectrum-di So , same thing you have but all compacted into a smaller unit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 So , same thing you have but all compacted into a smaller unit ? Yeah, but specific images for that particular guitar, unlike the Specrum where you can store images that are suitable for a whole bunch of guitars. I use the spectrum with four of my guitars and just choose the image that is right for that specific guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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