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#1 User is offline   dsn716 

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 08:21 AM

Sorry guys, just need to know if I'm the only one, but how many of you would like to see the Les Paul Classic in regular production again?
I've owned a 1997 Les Paul Classic, and now a 2012 Les Paul Classic Plus. To me, there is just something about the 60's slim taper neck profile, coupled with the 496R and 500T pickups that I just can't get enough of. By far, it was/is the best mid-level Les Paul model Gibson ever made, in my opinion.
Again... just curious if I'm the only one...
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 06:30 PM

View Postdsn716, on 13 October 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

Sorry guys, just need to know if I'm the only one, but how many of you would like to see the Les Paul Classic in regular production again?
I've owned a 1997 Les Paul Classic, and now a 2012 Les Paul Classic Plus. To me, there is just something about the 60's slim taper neck profile, coupled with the 496R and 500T pickups that I just can't get enough of. By far, it was/is the best mid-level Les Paul model Gibson ever made, in my opinion.
Again... just curious if I'm the only one...




Basically a 1960 Les Paul?

If it has a solid body and a 60's neck, it should be in production

*cough cough* 1960 Les Paul Custom *cough cough*
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Posted 13 October 2013 - 07:18 PM

the funny part is that the Classic started as a model above the Standard. The original Classics were so close to the 1960 Reissues that some unscrupulous sellers began passing the Classics off as such. As time went on, Gibson watered the Classic down.

I would like to see it as it was in the beginning- no snot green inlays, no green tuners, an ABR bridge, 57 Classic pickups, Les Paul Model on the headstock and a regular pickguard that doesnt say 1960 on it. Swiss cheese, slim neck and plaintop would be fine.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:07 AM

Hi,
I own a 2008 Les Paul Classic Antique. I'm having difficulty finding any information about those guitars, very few people seem to acknowledge that they ever existed. When I contacted Gibson they gave me the spec of my guitar and the following link (strangely half of the page is in Japanese!).

http://www.gibson.co...ssic%20Antique/

I "found" the guitar whilst looking for my first Gibson during 2010, I'd tried several Studios and Standard's, but none of them sounded to me, as I thought a Les Pauls should sound. When I say I found the guitar, it was in a music shop that had lost it's Gibson dealership, in a corner looking pretty unloved and already two to three years old, although still brand new, I plugged it in and immediately thought, I've found it, the Les Paul sound I'm after!
The headstock has the same motif as a ES335 and, interestingly has binding around it. So far I haven't found a Les Paul that I like as much this side of an R9.
If anyone has any information about the Les Paul Classic Antique I'd love to hear it
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Posted 14 October 2013 - 11:34 AM

I too, own a (year) 2000 "Classic" model, Les Paul: (Honeburst, figured top)

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I have changed out the pickups, to Classic '57 (neck) and '57+ (bridge), and put a
bone nut, and a '59 TRC on it, as well. Love it!!

I may, at some future point, change out the position markers, for MOP! But, it's not
a major thing, right now. They actually look worse, color wise, in photos, than in person.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:49 PM

1960 Les Pauls are my favorite...


solid body, rounded 60's neck..

YES YES YES! [drool]
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Posted 14 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

View Postcharlie brown, on 14 October 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

I too, own a (year) 2000 "Classic" model, Les Paul: (Honeburst, figured top)

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I have changed out the pickups, to Classic '57 (neck) and '57+ (bridge), and put a
bone nut, and a '59 TRC on it, as well. Love it!!

I may, at some future point, change out the position markers, for MOP! But, it's not
a major thing, right now. They actually look worse, color wise, in photos, than in person.

CB





I'll buy it from you. I've been looking around for one just like yours, is the body fully solid?
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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:08 PM

Yeah, it's "weight relieved" (although it's still quite heavy, compared to some more recent models).

But, Sorry Zep...it's not for sale. At least, not at this time...I love it, too much! [biggrin]

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 05:40 PM

View PostFennRx, on 13 October 2013 - 07:18 PM, said:

the funny part is that the Classic started as a model above the Standard. The original Classics were so close to the 1960 Reissues that some unscrupulous sellers began passing the Classics off as such. As time went on, Gibson watered the Classic down.

I would like to see it as it was in the beginning- no snot green inlays, no green tuners, an ABR bridge, 57 Classic pickups, Les Paul Model on the headstock and a regular pickguard that doesnt say 1960 on it. Swiss cheese, slim neck and plaintop would be fine.

That is probably the thing I like most about my 2012 Classic plus. Yeah, the figured top is awesome, but it doesn't have the ugly greenish inlays.
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Posted 14 October 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostZeppeholic, on 13 October 2013 - 06:30 PM, said:

Basically a 1960 Les Paul?

If it has a solid body and a 60's neck, it should be in production

*cough cough* 1960 Les Paul Custom *cough cough*

Yeah, a 1960 Les Paul Custom would be nice, if I had 4 - 5 grand burning a hole in my bank account. In terms of "mid-grade" ($2,000 and less) Les Pauls, the Classic was/is the one.
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Posted 15 October 2013 - 02:18 AM

View Postpippy, on 14 October 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

I remember them when they came out, Ian. Very Nice Guitars. I liked the single-ply binding on the h'stock, the '57 Classic/Classic+ p'ups and I'm partial to the VSB finish, too.

Good Score!

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Here's an old GAK ad for the guit you have. Essentially the same info as in your link but with fewer Japanese words...

http://www.gak.co.uk...ic-antique/2896

I'm certain I've read quite a few articles about them but I'm buggered if I can find them just now! Very Odd...

There were quite a few variations on the Classic and several 'GOTW' 400-off limited editions - some with the old script-style Gibson h'stock logo.

I like the 1960 Classic very much. Obviously, as I have a pair....LOL!

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Thanks Pippy. So was the Classic Antique a budget model, or is that just an old price?

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:28 AM

In that case, I think I got a bargain then!


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 06:51 AM

I played an old LP Classic a week ago and i have to say they´re pretty ace!

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:30 AM

View Postpippy, on 15 October 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:


As FennRx mentions in post #3 the 1960 Classic was originally priced higher than the Standard; roughly half-way between that model and the 1959 R-I (the figure I've usually seen quoted is 40% higher than the Standard of the time).
When the Classic specs were 'watered down' (again, as FennRx says) it eventually became below the Standard in the pecking/price order.


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Pippy, what year did they start "watering down" the Classics?
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Posted 15 October 2013 - 08:17 AM

Thanks Pippy. I have a 2000 Classic. Outside of the snot green inlays, I love this Lester. I had a 2008 Traditional, for me the Classic is a much nicer player.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 09:19 AM

I love the slimmer neck too. The beefier 50s didn't bother me until I got my SG with the 60s neck. I had to get rid of the Traditional and get the Classic. I also like the ABR 1 bridge. It is much easier to adjust the action, I can almost do it on the fly.
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Posted 15 October 2013 - 09:45 AM

I think mine has the narrower binding:
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And also the rounded inlays:
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Here's the headstock:
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Posted 15 October 2013 - 10:58 AM

Great job on this thread. I love a good history lesson. [thumbup] =D> \:D/
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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:27 AM

Pippy knows his shitz! [thumbup]
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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:59 PM

View Postcharlie brown, on 14 October 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

Yeah, it's "weight relieved" (although it's still quite heavy, compared to some more recent models).

But, Sorry Zep...it's not for sale. At least, not at this time...I love it, too much! [biggrin]

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