Lobomov Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Ok .. I've been kinda GAS'ing for a Gibson SG for a while now. I've tried the Gibson SG 2013 standard. It has the 1961 reissue slimtaper neck, Classic 57 pups and the small pickguard instead of the full bat wing. I've been reading about them being on clearance sale in the US for 800-900$ a piece, but so far no such luch here in Europe, hopefully that will happen, but I'm not counting on it. Right now buying it new is my only option and it stands at around 1600-1700$, tho if I have to buy a new one, then I'll grab a 2014 in walnut. Sure does look sweet in the promotion pics :) Now older models 2005-2008'ish pop up frequently on the used marked for around 900-1000$, which a bit cheaper, but I have never held one of those ever, so if you don't mind, I'd love to hear your opinions. I believe they have a thick 50s neck, 490T/498R pups and off course the full bat wing. How is that neck? Is it the same as one the 2013 Les Paul Traditional or? (The only two 50s Gibson necks I've tried is the 2013 LP trad and my old Howard Roberts, which I believe has a 1959 neck) And how do the pups compare in your opinion? (While I maybe can quickly get an impression of the neck once a visit a seller in person, I have no idea what kind of amp if any there will be to try it on). Also if there is anything else you'd like to share, pls do :) Oh .. and of course a pic of the older SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Well, the other difference, besides pickguard and pickups, in most SG Standards prior to 2013, was less beveling (narrower/shallower), and NO horn tapering. For some folks, that's "no big deal," but for me, it was a deal breaker! Since Gibson went back to wider/deeper bevels, and that lovely horn tapering, I went "crazy" and bought 4, in the last year. Barring them making a Jr. and Special with those features, I'll be staying out of SG "rehab" for the moment. The 2013 has the nicer bevels, and horn tapering, like the original early 60's versions did. And, it has the "option" of the mini-tune system. It's my understanding, that the 2014 models come WITH the mini-tune system, ONLY! So, that may, or may not, be a consideration, for you? Good Luck, whatever you decide to get. And, remember...Photo's, or it didn't happen! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 ... It's my understanding, that the 2014 models come WITH the mini-tune system, ONLY! So, that may, or may not, be a consideration, for you? ... CB This is my understanding, too. I think this is odd. Perhaps the latest SGs weren't enough neck-heavy? So they perhaps try to merge tradition and progress this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I had a 2005 SG Standard, and I never really got on with it. I am used to a slim taper neck, and the D-shaped one on the SG just didn't feel nice. In addition, it made the guitar too head-heavy. The pickups were VERY loud, but I felt they lacked warmth. I now have a 2013 Standard natural burst, and I really like it. The neck is lovely, and the pickups sound nice too. It's a much brighter sound than my LP Classic, but still warm. Ultimately, make sure you try before you buy. Even with my cloth ears, I noticed a difference in tone between my guitar and another Standard in the same shop. Mine sounded nicer, and that's what swung it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I had a 2005 SG Standard, and I never really got on with it. I am used to a slim taper neck, and the D-shaped one on the SG just didn't feel nice. In addition, it made the guitar too head-heavy. The pickups were VERY loud, but I felt they lacked warmth. I now have a 2013 Standard natural burst, and I really like it. The neck is lovely, and the pickups sound nice too. It's a much brighter sound than my LP Classic, but still warm. Ultimately, make sure you try before you buy. Even with my cloth ears, I noticed a difference in tone between my guitar and another Standard in the same shop. Mine sounded nicer, and that's what swung it for me. In addition, the Natural Burst finish is a very beautiful one, and so in your 2013 Standard looks meet tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobomov Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 This is my understanding, too. I think this is odd. Perhaps the latest SGs weren't enough neck-heavy? So they perhaps try to merge tradition and progress this way Lol .. Yeah, why not :D Thx for your replies ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I had a 2006 standard with natural burst finish with the SG profile neck. I thought it was a great playing guitar and the pick ups 490 & 498 sounded great. The neck was not as full as a standard 50's gibson profile but not as small as the 60's slim. I now have a 2009 standard with the split coil burst bucker configuration and a 60's slim profile neck. I think the neck is a bit smaller and I like it but I find the burst bucker split coil configuration on the bridge lacking a bit. I still like the guitar and I am thinking of taking and putting the 490 and 498 combo in it. Good luck, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69tele Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If the new STD has the 57 pups, small guard and 60s neck what difference is there to the '61 reissue ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtim Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 If the new STD has the 57 pups, small guard and 60s neck what difference is there to the '61 reissue ? I know exactley what your saying but I think the 61 reissue has a wider headstock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69tele Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 My dad has the pre update SG STD and I have the SG 61 RI the headstock is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telejojo Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I have a 2013 black with miniEtune and love it.It sound great and just fits me.I was a little mad when I paid 1400 and saw them on sale one day on line for 1100.00 but I still love mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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