indiekiduk Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's been what 18 years since Noel debuted the Union Jack at Main Rd, sadly Epiphone are too late with this model. Also no union jack on the sides or back and too dark blue are deal breakers. You'd think if they waited this long they could at least get it perfect? Here is what it should have looked like: Check the paint round the edges of the f-holes, delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 It's been what 18 years since Noel debuted the Union Jack at Main Rd, sadly Epiphone are too late with this model. Also no union jack on the sides or back and too dark blue are deal breakers. You'd think if they waited this long they could at least get it perfect? Here is what it should have looked like: Check the paint round the edges of the f-holes, delicious. I agree. Seems stupid to do it so late and not do it right. Although Noel's never had matching paint in the f holes, I love the look of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I don't know....apart from the amp and the shrunken Casino, this little lot strikes me as being a bit "same old, same old." Not that Epiphone is the only company one could criticize for that, this UK dealer has a handy search function that shows the NAMM offerings from each of the big manufacturers: http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/NAMM-2014/?brandname=Epiphone Nothing in the Fender line-up struck me as desperately interesting, either. But then, to be fair, Fender has diversified a bit over the last few years with the Pawn Shop, Blacktop, and Modern Player stuff. Looking at the Gibson line-up, well, I imagine it's fair to say that Gibson never tires of making Les Pauls. Lots of Les Pauls. And Les Pauls more than anything else. With a few SGs thrown in. Not much innovative or off-beat in the Gibson lineup, either. Maybe I'm just disappointed because I was one of those hankering for an Epi non-reverse Firebird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Where exactly is it advertised as a 'Noel Gallagher' signature... So it has not to be identical to his guitars I can't imagine Epi is in a hurry to sign him as a "signature" artist: Gallagher has the luxury of a guitar technician, who looks after all his guitars prior to the show by setting them up, re-stringing, and tuning them. "Before we became very f-----' wealthy young men, I used to use Epiphone guitars," Gallagher explains. "But they're really a poor man's Gibson, which is what I now use. I don't have a deal with them, as I don't go in for that sort of thing. Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/11/23/day.gallagher/ That said, how can anyone who was young in the 1990s look at an Epiphone Sheraton in a Union Jack finish and not think of Noel Gallagher? But maybe I'm becoming old, cranky and reactionary in my middle age, as I'd actually prefer not to see my country's flag as guitar ornamentation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valnob Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 From MusicStoreTv on youtube It's in german and english but you see the guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vomer Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Not much innovative or off-beat in the Gibson lineup, either. Given what happens when Gibson get "innovative or off-beat" I think that's probably a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Given what happens when Gibson get "innovative or off-beat" I think that's probably a good thing. A fair point, I concede. I recall that horrible Firebird X thing, but then I've never seen one in the flesh, so to speak, so maybe I am being overly-judgmental. But I suspect not. I just think that something a little different would be good, even if it is a (modest) twist on a classic design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 ANy guess on that century amp being a tube amp or solid state? Looks like it's 75watts, if that's tube power- dang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 ANy guess on that century amp being a tube amp or solid state? Looks like it's 75watts, if that's tube power- dang! Product Overview The most iconic Epiphone amplifier in history gets updated for the 21st Century player! Faithful replica of classic 1930’s era cabinet design including hand made laminated Maple cabinet with bent rims, all metal handle, 6-point star screws and vintage grill cloth. Re-designed electronics including: • 18 watts; All-Tube; Class A/B • 2 - 6V6 and 2 - 12AX7 • 12” Speaker • Master Volume with pull “boost” mode • Master Tone • Bright, Normal and Dark Inputs • Extension Speaker Output • Footswitch Jack (footswitch optional) • Internal Bias Adjusment Estimated worldwide production – 3,000 Source: http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_amps_detail.asp?stock=14012215024858 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Product Overview The most iconic Epiphone amplifier in history gets updated for the 21st Century player! Faithful replica of classic 1930’s era cabinet design including hand made laminated Maple cabinet with bent rims, all metal handle, 6-point star screws and vintage grill cloth. Re-designed electronics including: • 18 watts; All-Tube; Class A/B • 2 - 6V6 and 2 - 12AX7 • 12” Speaker • Master Volume with pull “boost” mode • Master Tone • Bright, Normal and Dark Inputs • Extension Speaker Output • Footswitch Jack (footswitch optional) • Internal Bias Adjusment Estimated worldwide production – 3,000 Source: http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_amps_detail.asp?stock=14012215024858 INteresting, that output doesn't seem to jibe with the specs on the back of the one in the press release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 INteresting, that output doesn't seem to jibe with the specs on the back of the one in the press release 75 (tube) watts scares me. I have slight hearing loss in my left ear, which I freely attribute to youthful stupidity and the 50 watt Laney LC-50 tube amp I had at the time. 75 (tube) watts from that little wooden box? No thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott0 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 75 (tube) watts scares me. I have slight hearing loss in my left ear, which I freely attribute to youthful stupidity and the 50 watt Laney LC-30 tube amp I had at the time. 75 (tube) watts from that little wooden box? No thank you. Certainly it has to be a misprint on the back of that prototype in the press release image eh? The specs you linked to seem much more appropriate to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Summerisle Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 It has 18 (tube) watts Yes, I know, I read the published specs (see my post above). I'm interested in that photo Scott posted, though. Just a typo on the prototype, surely, or were they mooting a solid-state version, at some point in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Just like the Gibson ES390 with P90s or is he calling it wrong, too Firstly, this video is brand new. I've objected to that name since the Coupe pics first appeared on the internet months ago, because the Coupe didn't match the specs of any ES-390 on the market... Traditionally Epiphone is a brand that tends to distinguish its models with names rather than numbers. The Casino is such an iconic instrument for the brand that to label the small bodied version simply an ES-390 w/ P90s would reduce its significant relationship to the Casino. It seems that Epiphone agree, hence the coupe. It might be splitting hairs but before they announced the Gibson release (with a Gibson sounding name) the fact that all the Gibson ES-390s had completely different pickups (mini-humbuckers) it seemed stupid to compare it that closely to one with p90s. As for the Union Jack Sheraton, it might not be a NG Sig but there's no kidding where the inspiration comes from, so why not do the whole body?? I can't speak for everybody, and even though I'm not a huge Oasis fan, I much prefer the full finish than the Hofneresque Jubilee finish. Maybe, like Hofner, they have plans for a more expensive release that has a full body flag finish while the cheaper one just gets the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 As for the Union Jack Sheraton, it might not be a NG Sig but there's no kidding where the inspiration comes from, so why not do the whole body?? I can't speak for everybody, and even though I'm not a huge Oasis fan, I much prefer the full finish than the Hofneresque Jubilee finish. Maybe, like Hofner, they have plans for a more expensive release that has a full body flag finish while the cheaper one just gets the top? While I like the graphics encompassing the entire body, you have to ask the question: How much do you want this guitar to cost? I dont like Union Jack guitars, per se, and I'm not an Oasis fan, so the desicion to only do the top seems logical from the perspective of price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 While I like the graphics encompassing the entire body, you have to ask the question: How much do you want this guitar to cost? I dont like Union Jack guitars, per se, and I'm not an Oasis fan, so the desicion to only do the top seems logical from the perspective of price point. I suppose in that sense I'm with you. I would not be put off buying it. But, their target market of Oasis fan/tribute guys might be put off buying this official product because they know they could be more satisfied with a second hand sheraton custom painted and still be affordable. That's what Epi is up against, hence why it would make more sense for them to directly compete with anyone making these guitars to spec... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lengle1981 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 While I like the graphics encompassing the entire body, you have to ask the question: How much do you want this guitar to cost? I dont like Union Jack guitars, per se, and I'm not an Oasis fan, so the desicion to only do the top seems logical from the perspective of price point. I'm surprised they haven't done the entire body too but would like to see them bring the same model out in other colours also. It looks exactly like the 62 reissue sheraton apart from the headstock (I prefer the bigger headstock than the one on the 62 reissue), would look amazing with an iced tea finish would that guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Sorry, I missed the post above the one I quoted.... 75 watt is the 'power consumption' IMO of course I assumed that to be the case OR the . somehow got missed out when screening the prototype (i.e 7.5W) which would make it a great little low powered amp to fill the gap left by the Valve Jnr. Frankly as long as it has valves and a speaker I don't care what the power output is - it's so beautiful I want to marry it! Straight to the top of my shopping list for 2014 even if I have to sell something to get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lengle1981 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I assumed that to be the case OR the . somehow got missed out when screening the prototype (i.e 7.5W) which would make it a great little low powered amp to fill the gap left by the Valve Jnr. Frankly as long as it has valves and a speaker I don't care what the power output is - it's so beautiful I want to marry it! Straight to the top of my shopping list for 2014 even if I have to sell something to get it! Could the 75w be the speakers capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 interesting new products. some of these will probably sell quite well to potential new Epi users (Heafy and Bonamassa models etc) and that Casino looks nice for the more traditional side of things. I think they've done quite well considering you can't possibly build everything people might desire and need to have sufficient volume for dealers and pipeline orders etc. not many years ago a couple of new products would have been a major event. Plus the 'limited run' models will likely follow through the year which keeps interest going. Just on the UK Flag model - on some of these pics (eg LP range) it looks like the sides are just computer shading so maybe they will flow the flag onto the sides of the production models - that would certainly be a better look. Amp would be 18watt RMS and 75w drawing power I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrasso Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 Love the Jack Cassady all white bass. Very interested in the acoustics. The heavy gloss finish on the 64 Caballero kind of kills it for me. Very interested in playing the FT-350. Not that I need another dread, but it could be interesting. Wished they had more options on the acoustic and all solid wood like the Masterbilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkuss Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The Casino Coupe is in the same way similar to an ES-390 like the (regular) Casino is similar to an ES-330 Same size, same construction - just diffenrent pickups just like a Gibson ES-335 with P90s is still an ES-335 or a Sheraton with Mini-Buckers or Humbuckers is still a Sheraton or a Les Paul with P90s or MiniBuckers or Humbuckers is still a Les Paul stupid depends on the view Stupid equals the comparison of an ES330/Casino to P90s/Minis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianh Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Some photos of the Casino Coupe that a buddy of mine at NAMM was kind enough to forward: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lengle1981 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not a fan of the casino coupe based on its looks. If I want a casino shape ill just get a casino. I think its a bit lazy by epiphone to be honest. Having said that I know some on here will buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabar Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm digging those Casiino Coupes! I wonder if the smaller bodies will lessen the feedback issue Casinos can have. Also, how different are they from Widkats? Wildkats are chambered and quite dense; the Casino Coupe (like the Casino) is fully hollow --- very different response, even with the same pickups. Casino Coupe is a double cutaway, Wildkat is a single. Controls are different --- Casino Coupe has typical Gibson control layout (volume and tone for each pickup); the Wildkat is more of a Gretsch layout (master volume on cutaway bout, individual pickup volume controls and master tone knob on body). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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