gibsonfreaky Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hey guys this is my first topic! (excluding my introducing one) I have a cool idea how to let sound a cheaper amp (hiwatt, transistor marshall...) like a JCM 800 Its verry simple, I looked at You tube vids, and I found that a Guv'nor pedal sounds the same as a marshall JCM 800 Overdrive! The things you've got to do: Step 1: Get a Marshall Guv'nor pedal (borrow it or something...) Step 2: Plug it into your amp (IT MUST BE AN AMP WITH A GOOD CLEAN SOUND!) Step 3: Find the settings you like... Step 4: GO ROCKIN' OUT! ATTENTION: You MUST HAVE AN AMP WITH GOOD A GOOD CLEAN SOUND! Without a good clean sound you will never nail it. Cheers. PS: Please tell your experience.... Edit (a few hours later...): I agree more with this post: From what I've heard from a bunch of you guys' date=' it's a great sounding pedal. But, I own a few great sounding pedals with my favorite being the Analogman King of Tone; at home, I plug it into a 1966 Fender Champ and it sounds very good as long as I crank up the amp a bit which brings more of the amp into the equation. I just find it hard to believe that I can buy a $70 pedal, plug it into just about any amp and have it sound like a cranked up $1,500 vintage Marshall.[/quote'] I think a $1,500 vintage marshall is more the amp it sounds like. the Guv'nor sounds like a tube OD :) Its a cool overdrive to play AC/DC and those things... +1 for RichCI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homz Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I dout that. If you post the links to the youtube vids that would be helpful. But, I will reserve judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The marshall guvnor plus is the closest you will get (with any amp, tube, digital or ss) to the jcm800 sound... it is a very good pedal... I use one from time to time (through tube amps only) and it is outstanding... AXE owns one too I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I doubt it. There are some great sounding pedals available but I have yet to find one sounds and feels like a cranked up tube amp. gibsonfreaky, I have to ask: Have you actually tried the pedal yourself or just watched some videos on YouTube? Also, have you ever played through a cranked up Marshall JCM 800? I'm not trying to bust your balls here, I just want to get an idea of what sort of experience your basing your opinion on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I say you guys should try one... BUT through a tube amp (fender or vox clean). Of course that kind of defeats the purpose of a cheap solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That's pretty much what I mean, Thunder. From what I've heard from a bunch of you guys, it's a great sounding pedal. But, I own a few great sounding pedals with my favorite being the Analogman King of Tone; at home, I plug it into a 1966 Fender Champ and it sounds very good as long as I crank up the amp a bit which brings more of the amp into the equation. I just find it hard to believe that I can buy a $70 pedal, plug it into just about any amp and have it sound like a cranked up $1,500 vintage Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That's pretty much what I mean' date=' Thunder.[/quote'] I know... I was just elaborating... I just find it hard to believe that I can buy a $70 pedal' date=' plug it into just about any amp and have it sound like a cranked up $1,500 vintage Marshall.[/quote'] Why not? didnt you hear about the kid that bought a Gibson Les Paul Custom for 300 bucks? or that guy that owns 5 epis that costed him in total less than a gibson les paul studio and each sounds way better than any of our gibsons:-" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I just find it hard to believe that I can buy a $70 pedal, plug it into just about any amp and have it sound like a cranked up $1,500 vintage Marshall. +1 I agree. It may get you into the ballpark but it by no means is "just as good"...but hey, if it it works for some more power to em'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfreaky Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 I doubt it. There are some great sounding pedals available but I have yet to find one sounds and feels like a cranked up tube amp. gibsonfreaky' date=' I have to ask: Have you actually tried the pedal yourself or just watched some videos on YouTube? Also, have you ever played through a cranked up Marshall JCM 800? I'm not trying to bust your balls here, I just want to get an idea of what sort of experience your basing your opinion on.[/quote'] sure i have a guv'nor... And i play sometimes JCM 800 amps in music stores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibsonfreaky Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Why not? didnt you hear about the kid that bought a Gibson Les Paul Custom for 300 bucks? or that guy that owns 5 epis that costed him in total less than a gibson les paul studio and each sounds way better than any of our gibsons:-" ? Woow man! if that guy his epis who sound way better then our gibbys they must be must be WONDER epis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 sure i have a guv'nor... And i play sometimes JCM 800 amps in music stores Well, if it works for you, more power to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXE® Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have a Guv'nor. Does it sound like my old Marshalls through a good amp of another brand. No.... If it was that easy everyone would have a $900. Amp and a $70. pedal... When the hell does school start back??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 That's another way to put it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myspace.com/jessenoah Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 When the hell does school start back??? the 12th but i log on @ school ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepblue Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 When the hell does school start back??? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitar_randy Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I doubt it. There are some great sounding pedals available but I have yet to find one sounds and feels like a cranked up tube amp. gibsonfreaky' date=' I have to ask: Have you actually tried the pedal yourself or just watched some videos on YouTube? Also, have you ever played through a cranked up Marshall JCM 800? I'm not trying to bust your balls here, I just want to get an idea of what sort of experience your basing your opinion on.[/quote'] I agree.I'm sure its a fine pedal,but thats about all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Guv'nor -> Good HiFi amp -> 2X12 Celestions = crunch at low volumes for home recording. Much better than POD / amp sims. I'd go for the MI Crunch box - apparently based on the Guv'nor. Recently, there was a thread about how the transistorized Roland Jazz chorus amps were good with pedals - same thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solacematt Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I hate the youtube generation...and oh god no, you live in south Florida, don't give our state a bad name on this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV-Zeppelin Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I agree with Rich and Thunder... while you can emulate the sound of a JCM800 using a pedal, you'll never get the feel of a cranked Marshall stack... and if you have a $70 pedal plugged into a $1000+ tube amp, you're almost better off saving up and getting the real thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I agree with Rich and Thunder... while you can emulate the sound of a JCM800 using a pedal' date=' you'll never get the feel of a cranked Marshall stack... and if you have a $70 pedal plugged into a $1000+ tube amp, you're almost better off saving up and getting the real thing.[/quote'] +1 (to you, to rich, and to me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myspace.com/jessenoah Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 wat about the roland jazz chorus, and a gov'nor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solacematt Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 wat about the roland jazz chorus' date=' and a gov'nor [/quote'] Roland JC120 is a solid state amp. If anything, it might end up sounding like one of the Marshall solid state amps, like the Valvestate series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichCI Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 wat about the roland jazz chorus' date=' and a gov'nor [/quote'] What solacematt just said. Stomp boxes and modeling have come quite a ways from just ten years ago but there is still nothing like the sound and FEEL of raw tubes sweating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergod Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Indeed... there's just so much you can ask a ss combo/stack to do... even with tube based pedals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80LPC Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 It's difficult to get the feel of a classic tube amp if you can't afford one. Many of us are lucky to have good tube amps, but I still experiment with other possibilities. For anyone on a budget, I would say go ahead and try out your ideas with pedals. You won't be throwing money away, because you'll be able to use them if / when you want to move up to a 'real' amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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