Sgt. Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 What is the desireablity of white or cream humbuckers as opposed to zebra or black. By white or cream I mean on an lp sunburst bobbin is white (or cream). why are black the least desireable? The colour of the copper wire is usually purply or reddish and concealed under a metal casing. What's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 What is the desireablity of white or cream humbuckers as opposed to zebra or black. By white or cream I mean on an lp sunburst the copper wire on the bobbin is white (or cream). why are black the least desireable? The colour of the copper wire is usually concealed under a metal casing. But some humbuckers are not covered ... I used to think that when the term 'zebra' came up regarding humbuckers it was because the plastic on the one coil of an uncoverd humbucker was white or cream and the other black. but that's not right is it? What's the difference? You are right about the zebra. My personal belief is that people like the white or cream ones because there was fewer of them and the blacks are much more common and less desirable as a result. Humbuckers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 You are right about the zebra. My personal belief is that people like the white or cream ones because there was fewer of them and the blacks are much more common and less desirable as a result. Humbuckers Ohh I get it ... good article. The bobbins are the plastic tops (usually concealed under metal casing) and are both white from early years and on certain PAF's while later years were black, some were zebra. white were mostly found on the unadjustable bobbin, but there are some rare double white PAFs. the actual copper wire was either purply or reddish, not white. duh I came across a passage on p. 203 of Paul Stanley's new bio where he talks about being famous and having guys with guitars waiting to sell to him before shows and buying a sunburst lp for 2200.oo that had the 'coveted' white bobbins. just wanted to understand that a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Cream pups have a brighter sound that a lot of players like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flight959 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Double Creams all the way for me! Gibson 1960 Reissue by Simon Clarkson Photography, on Flickr I think cream/white is viewed as being more vintage... IMHO Regards Flight959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Sutherland Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Cream pups have a brighter sound that a lot of players like. Black ones have a darker tone... Popped the covers off a set of my Sheptones and they have Zebra bobbins... best of both worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 What is the desireablity of white or cream humbuckers as opposed to zebra or black. By white or cream I mean on an lp sunburst bobbin is white (or cream). why are black the least desireable? The colour of the copper wire is usually purply or reddish and concealed under a metal casing. What's the difference? aynyone know what's under the cover of Burstbucker Pros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 aynyone know what's under the cover of Burstbucker Pros? Probably double black or zebra if you trust the pics in the Gibson store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Cream pups have a brighter sound that a lot of players like. Black ones have a darker tone... Popped the covers off a set of my Sheptones and they have Zebra bobbins... best of both worlds You guys are joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danner Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Oh man! Is this a troll thread LOL. I think it comes down to personal preference. Cream always looks good to me. Can it really effect value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bill Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You guys are joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Blue bobbins are better for playing the blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Oh man! Is this a troll thread LOL. I think it comes down to personal preference. Cream always looks good to me. Can it really effect value? Let me try to float this boat ... I was reading Paul Stanley's new bio and he mentions buying a sunburst lp with the cream humbuckers and saying that the cream humbuckers were more desireable (from a collectable standpoint). Outside of just liking the colour, I think at the time cream humbuckers represented a sunburst that was one of the early ones ... perhaps identification wise black and zebra came on later models and it's the early lp's that are desireable (and identified by Stanley by the cream humbuckers). That's my understanding. The early paf's were, if uncovered, cream coloured bobbins? If so when did Gibson start using black bobbins? Of course now days it's useless as an identifier because there's all three types on lp's. If the cream bobbins were solely on the early paf's then there'd be mismatched windings, different magnet types ... all the magic of the early paf's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Let me try to float this boat ... I was reading Paul Stanley's new bio and he mentions buying a sunburst lp with the cream humbuckers and saying that the cream humbuckers were more desireable (from a collectable standpoint). Outside of just liking the colour, I think at the time cream humbuckers represented a sunburst that was one of the early ones ... perhaps identification wise black and zebra came on later models and it's the early lp's that are desireable (and identified by Stanley by the cream humbuckers). That's my understanding. The early paf's were, if uncovered, cream coloured bobbins? If so when did Gibson start using black bobbins? Of course now days it's useless as an identifier because there's all three types on lp's. If the cream bobbins were solely on the early paf's then there'd be mismatched windings, different magnet types ... all the magic of the early paf's. The white bobbins came after they had been using the black ones for a few years. They started to appear around 1959, also the years of some of the most coveted sunburst Les Pauls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Sutherland Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 You guys are joking, right? I was Farns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Can I take that as a yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaicho8888 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Some of my newer ones have clear bobbins... for clearer tones... duh..LOL.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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