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1971 Gibson SG Special Tuners - Where to Find Looking for 71 SG Special 3x3 Tuners

#1 User is offline   jtwusmc 

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 08:27 AM

Hey board! I have a 1971 Gibson SG Special. She is a beautiful guitar and plays & sounds excellent! She is all original except for the tuners. I play this guitar, but I also collect and want to get her all back to original.

I picked up 5/6 era correct deluxe tuners (which were probably much more expensive), but realized the Special had the 3x3 "3 on a plate" tuners. I have not had any luck finding these tuners from this era.

Does anyone know where I can find an original set of 71 era "3 on a plate" SG Special tuners?

Thanks!
John

#2 User is offline   L5Larry 

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 10:12 AM

Best I can determine is you are most likely looking for Kluson 3-on-a-plate, oval white plastic button tuning machines.

Here's the e-bay link that gives me that idea, Scroll through the photos for the one showing the back of the headstock:
http://www.ebay.com/...=item1c44c99368

Repros of these tuners are readily available from most any parts house. Here's the mfg's page showing them:
http://www.wdmusic.c...double_row.html

Edit: Here's an e-bay listing at a reasonable price.
http://www.ebay.com/...=item46258a7dd3

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 08:49 AM

Larry, is it possible to open those up to check the gears for damage or other issues? I have a 59 LP Jr and high E was binding. I was afraid the plastic button would break due to the force I was using to tune up. Bought these repros but still have the originals. The repros look and work great.
1959 Les Paul Jr
1960 Melody Maker
1979 Flying V
1979 Explorer
1982 Heritage Flying V
1982 30th Anniversary Les Paul
2006 VOS 1960 Les Paul Special
2010 SG Classic
2011 50th Anniversary Pete Townsend SG
2011 61ri SG
2012 Gloss Series Flying V
2013 SG Original
2013 Les Paul Traditional
2013 61 Les Paul SG
2014 Les Paul Traditional

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:15 AM

Theoretically... yes.

The covers are affixed by two tabs that go through, and then bend under, the base plate. Straightening the tabs would allow the covers to be lifted off. Inspection and re-lubing would then be possible.

The trick to reassembly would be to get the tabs re-bent under the base plate without breaking them (the tabs), or bending/scratching the cover itself.

As for "originality", first and foremost, a guitar needs to be playable. I've never thought of replacing broken/damaged parts with proper replacements as affecting the "value" of the instrument (other than frets) as long as the original parts are kept with the instrument.

I needed to replace the Klusons on my 1960 Strat for similar reasons as you. I keep the originals in the case pocket wrapped up the the oil paper and box the replacements came in. When I sold an old 335, the new owner got the (completely unusable) original saddles from the ABR-1.

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:51 PM

View PostL5Larry, on 24 August 2014 - 11:15 AM, said:

Theoretically... yes.

The covers are affixed by two tabs that go through, and then bend under, the base plate. Straightening the tabs would allow the covers to be lifted off. Inspection and re-lubing would then be possible.

The trick to reassembly would be to get the tabs re-bent under the base plate without breaking them (the tabs), or bending/scratching the cover itself.

As for "originality", first and foremost, a guitar needs to be playable. I've never thought of replacing broken/damaged parts with proper replacements as affecting the "value" of the instrument (other than frets) as long as the original parts are kept with the instrument.

I needed to replace the Klusons on my 1960 Strat for similar reasons as you. I keep the originals in the case pocket wrapped up the the oil paper and box the replacements came in. When I sold an old 335, the new owner got the (completely unusable) original saddles from the ABR-1.


I saw the tabs and wondered about that. Thanks for the reply.
1959 Les Paul Jr
1960 Melody Maker
1979 Flying V
1979 Explorer
1982 Heritage Flying V
1982 30th Anniversary Les Paul
2006 VOS 1960 Les Paul Special
2010 SG Classic
2011 50th Anniversary Pete Townsend SG
2011 61ri SG
2012 Gloss Series Flying V
2013 SG Original
2013 Les Paul Traditional
2013 61 Les Paul SG
2014 Les Paul Traditional

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