Rabs Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 So far I have left the edges straight on my builds but in testing them I realise that the edges start to dig you a bit so I decided to round them off from now. Im quite excited about this build... And today I tried my new round over router bit for some nice detail in the finishing and to round those edges off... The whole body (and neck) is made of Utile (youtilly) wood... which pretty much has the same properties as Mahogany.... See what you reckon :) This body now has a neck glued and clamped in so we will see what the results are soon.. BUT im hoping this will be my first perfect build where I avoid all of the mistakes I have made so far (and hoping I don't make any new ones :unsure: ;)).. Even to the point where im gonna put Searcy's pickups in this build (the ones in my first complete build). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looks good Rabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Looks good Rabs. Thank you sir :) And yes as I say.. im pretty excited about this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Man, that looks nice! Kinda like a fat SG or one of those Yamahas Santana used to play. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Man, that looks nice! Kinda like a fat SG or one of those Yamahas Santana used to play. I like it. Cheers man.. I cant wait to take the clamps off tomorrow and see it as a proper guitar (as the neck joint is drying as we speak) :) And the neck is also made of the same wood.. looks well nice (if I do say so myself ;)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brc Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looks great. Are you going to stain the wood, or just clear the natural wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Looks great. Are you going to stain the wood, or just clear the natural wood. Thanks :) And yes I think this will be natural... Ive wet the wood to see what it will look like and I don't think it will need any colour.. :) We will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Damn Rabs,, that's some fine work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Damn Rabs,, that's some fine work! Thank you sir :) No update today though.. I have done my back in <_< ... so always best to take it easy when that happens or you make it worse.. Hopefully back in action tomorrow... we will see... backs can be funny things sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drog Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I like this look, Rabs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 For sure with the router bit. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cheers guys... cant wait to get some oil on that baby.. :) Its amazing how much a small detail like that can make a difference. And as always thanks to all who follow and comment.. It is appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Excellent - That's going to look really nice. Nice slab of wood!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Excellent - That's going to look really nice. Nice slab of wood!! Cheers man... And yes this Utile stuff is nice.... Its the best mahogany substitute ive seen so far (we will see what it sounds like soon enough :)). But it seems that genuine Mahogany is becoming quite rare (well over here anyway).. The last wood run I went on 4 different wood suppliers told me that they don't get it any more.. Its all Sapele, Utile and Meranti... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cheers man... And yes this Utile stuff is nice.... Its the best mahogany substitute ive seen so far (we will see what it sounds like soon enough :)). But it seems that genuine Mahogany is becoming quite rare (well over here anyway).. The last wood run I went on 4 different wood suppliers told me that they don't get it any more.. Its all Sapele, Utile and Meranti... I had a Taylor...something or other for about 6 months one year. It was made of Ovenkill? Ovencall? Ovengall maybe? Some kinda fake wood not mahogany but cheaper but we'll still call it mahogany kind of mahogany. Gigged it twice, traded it for an amp I didn't even need. It musta been a great guitar. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 I had a Taylor...something or other for about 6 months one year. It was made of Ovenkill? Ovencall? Ovengall maybe? Some kinda fake wood not mahogany but cheaper but we'll still call it mahogany kind of mahogany. Gigged it twice, traded it for an amp I didn't even need. It musta been a great guitar. rct So what you saying? That its never gonna sound good cos its not mahogany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Rich probably hadn't had lunch yet. So maybe he was irritable or something. HA! Anyways,, those would have been the Taylor 400 series I believe is what you are talking about Rich the wood is Ovangkol, from West Africa, and it is a REAL TREE (Imagine that!) http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/ovangkol/ back in 2000 when I picked up my first taylor (a 314CE) I tried the 414CE, 314 won out on the price point. (the 400 series are more dough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan H Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I had a Taylor...something or other for about 6 months one year. It was made of Ovenkill? Ovencall? Ovengall maybe? Some kinda fake wood not mahogany but cheaper but we'll still call it mahogany kind of mahogany. Gigged it twice, traded it for an amp I didn't even need. It musta been a great guitar. rct Ovangkol. It's a Rosewood relative, with more pronounced mids. About the same price as Honduran Mahogany back/side sets where I buy my wood...a little cheaper than Indian Rosewood. Still a great tonewood. -Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cheers man... And yes this Utile stuff is nice.... Its the best mahogany substitute ive seen so far (we will see what it sounds like soon enough :)). But it seems that genuine Mahogany is becoming quite rare (well over here anyway).. The last wood run I went on 4 different wood suppliers told me that they don't get it any more.. Its all Sapele, Utile and Meranti... Don't want to teach my grandma to suck eggs but I'm wondering if you're aware that Gibson have been using sapele for decades. Honduran Mahogany has been thin on the ground for a long time. Lot's of woods are "considered" mahogany, utile included. The word mahogany has almost come to mean a reddish hard, dense wood with straight grain and pronounced pores and seems to have stopped describing a genome. Edit: best looking body you've made yet (or at least the nicest you've posted). Nice one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So what you saying? That its never gonna sound good cos its not mahogany? No, I'm saying it's going to sound great because it isn't a Taylor. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Rich probably hadn't had lunch yet. So maybe he was irritable or something. HA! Anyways,, those would have been the Taylor 400 series I believe is what you are talking about Rich the wood is Ovangkol, from West Africa, and it is a REAL TREE (Imagine that!) http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/ovangkol/ back in 2000 when I picked up my first taylor (a 314CE) I tried the 414CE, 314 won out on the price point. (the 400 series are more dough) Yes, it was a 410 I believe, and it was expensive even 15 years ago money. Dull, nearly muffled plugged in, even duller unplugged. In all of my life of guitar buying I had never had such a brick from one of the big American makers, and I haven't had such a brick since. I don't know what happened, but it was just bad. Put me off Taylor, Ovankgol, and A/Es in general, I went back to using my Ovation. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 No, I'm saying it's going to sound great because it isn't a Taylor. rct Lol.. ok that's good I was getting worried there for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Don't want to teach my grandma to suck eggs but I'm wondering if you're aware that Gibson have been using sapele for decades. Honduran Mahogany has been thin on the ground for a long time. Lot's of woods are "considered" mahogany, utile included. The word mahogany has almost come to mean a reddish hard, dense wood with straight grain and pronounced pores and seems to have stopped describing a genome. Edit: best looking body you've made yet (or at least the nicest you've posted). Nice one! Cheers man... I am still learning... .. :) And yes when I did that LP Junior mod I saw that it was very clearly Sapele.... And a short while back I remember a new model (cant remember exactly which one it was now)that stated "Genuine Mahogany" as part of its specs... So im assuming that when it doesn't say "Genuine" that its probably Sapele or some other type... But as I say I have worked with a few of them now.. And I think that this Utile is probably the nicest of the other "mahogany" types... its got such a nice grain to it and to work with its very similar to Mahogany... I will be looking for more of it me thinks :) (actually I do have a bit more in stock so will certainly be using it again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I might be mistaken, but I recall some kind of either gentlemans agreement or law or regulation that stopped them from calling anything but mahogany mahogany. Bubinga was an early replacement for mahogany and I remember them(guitar and amp makers) calling things mahogany that were bubinga. Then it stopped. But I'm not 100% on why. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PingPongBob Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Nice work Rabs! I like that shape much better than those on your other builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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