Rabs Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hello... So on Monday im going to be wiring my first Tele type hardware guitar... and as with all wiring theres many options to choose from... Anyone got much experience with it? These are the two I found that seem ok to me One of these types of three way switches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Don't forget the most important part. The .001 cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Don't forget the most important part. The .001 cap. Thanks, but are you just trying to confuse me more? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksdaddy Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ha ha, no, sorry. The .001 cap can be used no matter what version you choose and it's VERY important to the tone of a Tele, at least in my world. Normally when you roll off the volume (on most any guitar), you lose some of the highs. With the .001 cap in place, when you roll off the volume the tone gets thinner and more glassy. It's wonderful. Most of the time I play my Tele with the volume backed off some, that way I get a super clear transparent tone but if I want to fatten it up all I have to do is roll the volume up some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Ha ha, no, sorry. The .001 cap can be used no matter what version you choose and it's VERY important to the tone of a Tele, at least in my world. Normally when you roll off the volume (on most any guitar), you lose some of the highs. With the .001 cap in place, when you roll off the volume the tone gets thinner and more glassy. It's wonderful. Most of the time I play my Tele with the volume backed off some, that way I get a super clear transparent tone but if I want to fatten it up all I have to do is roll the volume up some. Ok, that makes more sense.. I will look into that.. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hows about this one? Seems like a cool idea (a blend setting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan H Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 One thing I would personally do...flip that control plate around. Puts the volume control right below your picking hand...but just far enough away that you don't knock it. One of the first things I do with any Tele I buy.... -Ryan Edit: What I mean is, swap the positions of the volume and tone pots (so volume on one end, tone in the middle, switch at the other end) then rotate the plate 180 degrees from where you have it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 One thing I would personally do...flip that control plate around. Puts the volume control right below your picking hand...but just far enough away that you don't knock it. One of the first things I do with any Tele I buy.... -Ryan Edit: What I mean is, swap the positions of the volume and tone pots (so volume on one end, tone in the middle, switch at the other end) then rotate the plate 180 degrees from where you have it now. Heretic. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Wiring a Tele has to be bout the easiest out there? I have a hum in the neck of mine and installed a switch to make it a single (for true Tele tones) or a hum. Its mainly the issue of which sort of wiring do I go for... theres so many different ways to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Kinda depends on what you want the switch to do, Rabs. The first one you posted is the only one that allows you to get both pickups in the middle position. The .001 cap KS mentions is just a treble bleed - but it is really useful in all guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Don't forget the most important part. The .001 cap. Ha ha, no, sorry. The .001 cap can be used no matter what version you choose and it's VERY important to the tone of a Tele, at least in my world. Normally when you roll off the volume (on most any guitar), you lose some of the highs. With the .001 cap in place, when you roll off the volume the tone gets thinner and more glassy. It's wonderful. Most of the time I play my Tele with the volume backed off some, that way I get a super clear transparent tone but if I want to fatten it up all I have to do is roll the volume up some. This treble bleeder cap can be added to any volume pot in any guitar if desired, but became popular and famous in particular with Telecasters. When using 180...270pF, it will compensate the treble loss through the guitar cable in first order. Significantly higher values like .001µF will make tone very bright when turning down the volume pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Kinda depends on what you want the switch to do, Rabs. The first one you posted is the only one that allows you to get both pickups in the middle position. The .001 cap KS mentions is just a treble bleed - but it is really useful in all guitars. Well im not 100% sure that's why I was asking on here :) I quite like the idea of having a blend setting.... That seems like a good idea to me so you can control the output coming from each pup... (which is how I assume it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Well im not 100% sure that's why I was asking on here :) I quite like the idea of having a blend setting.... That seems like a good idea to me so you can control the output coming from each pup... (which is how I assume it works. The last one allows for that - Broadcaster with blend. But you would lose the tone control - which I find pretty crucial on the Tele due to its brightness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 The last one allows for that - Broadcaster with blend. But you would lose the tone control - which I find pretty crucial on the Tele due to its brightness. Hmm, yeah true... This is the info im after.. So what is the usual middle position like on a Tele? I find I never use it on any of my LPs... But maybe its more useful on a Tele? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 So the standard wiring mixes the neck and middle via the one master volume pot. So you can't control the mix of the two (except via pickup height). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Well im not 100% sure that's why I was asking on here :) I quite like the idea of having a blend setting.... That seems like a good idea to me so you can control the output coming from each pup... (which is how I assume it works. What about using a Fender tandem pot for 2 x volume? Those are part of Nashville Power Telecasters, albeit for magnetic pickups' volume and tone here since the other pot position is occupied by the Fishman Power Pot circuit and piezo volume control. They have solid shafts and screw-mounted knobs. Due to being "normal" 250 kOhms audio taper pots without switches or the like, both of the pots can be used for volume or tone application. Using two of these would allow for creating a two volume/two tone circuit on a Telecaster control plate. Sadly I can't provide a link, couldn't find them offered through web research. I'm sure though they are available as spare part as well as the tandem knobs. Here's how it looks like on and inside a Nashville Power Telecaster: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 What about using a Fender tandem pot for 2 x volume? Those are part of Nashville Power Telecaster, albeit for magnetic pickups' volume and tone here since the other position is occupied buy the piezo volume control. They have solid shafts and screw-mounted knobs. Due to being "normal" 250 kOhms audio taper pots without switches or the like, both of the pots can be used for volume or tone application. Using two of these would allow for creating a two volume/two tone circuit on a Telecaster control plate. Sadly I can't provide a link, couldn't find them offered through web research. I'm sure though they are available as spare part as well as the tandem knobs. Here's how it looks like on and inside a Nashville Power Telecaster Thanks man.. I hadn't thought about that.. I have seen those pots and knobs before.. I will have a think about that.. Cheers :) (even though it will mean buying more stuff which im not sure I want too at this stage)... But good info though.. Cheers This place has them for sale http://www.axesrus.co.uk/CTS-Wide-Range-Tone-Pot-p/widerangepot.htm http://www.axesrus.co.uk/Set-of-Grub-Screw-Concentric-knobs-Small-Bore-p/hc003-sb.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Tele don't need all that, which is why it is a Tele. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Thanks man.. I hadn't thought about that.. I have seen those pots and knobs before.. I will have a think about that.. Cheers :) (even though it will mean buying more stuff which im not sure I want too at this stage)... But good info though.. Cheers This place has them for sale http://www.axesrus.co.uk/CTS-Wide-Range-Tone-Pot-p/widerangepot.htm http://www.axesrus.co.uk/Set-of-Grub-Screw-Concentric-knobs-Small-Bore-p/hc003-sb.htm Sorry, I just checked the links and found the first one is offering a twin pot with different specs and operated in common by only one shaft. This one would be of no use, it has to be a twin-shaft pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Tele don't need all that, which is why it is a Tele. rct Maybe, but I'm enchanted what wonderful acoustic guitar a Tele can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Sorry, I just checked the links and found the first one is offering a twin pot with different specs and operated in common by only one shaft. This one would be of no use, it has to be a twin-shaft pot. Sorry for my bad English, Rabs. I had written "split-shaft" but meant twin- or double-shaft. I meanwhile think they also are not called tandem but concentric pots. Please apologize me for causing this confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Sorry for my bad English, Rabs. I had written "split-shaft" but meant twin- or double-shaft. I meanwhile think they also are not called tandem but concentric pots. Please apologize me for causing this confusion. Lol... not a problem at all.. Your English is better than my non existent German :) (well maybe one or two words)... Anyone who can speak more than one language is doing better than me and I never really notice any issues with your language.. but then im not even that good at English :unsure: :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Researching for a retailer in UK, I found these 250k/500K concentric pots: http://www.guitarrepairshop.co.uk/product/fender-solid-shaft-dual-concentric-250k500k-potentiometer/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Researching for a retailer in UK, I found these 250k/500K concentric pots: http://www.guitarrepairshop.co.uk/product/fender-solid-shaft-dual-concentric-250k500k-potentiometer/ Thanks man... I think im gonna leave it for this time around and keep things simple.. But maybe for the future.. Plus I haven't seen that shop before so I now have somewhere else to look for parts.. so cheers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I just opened up the Power Tele again to make sure by measurements that they used 250k/250k concentric pots, and they are indeed just that. However, when using two 250k/500k pots, one for each pickup, it should work, too, or even better since 500k for tone will load down the signal less when cranked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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