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Trying to understand something and it just isn't happening.

 

I have two identical guitars, both 2013 SG standards with identical hardware (bridge, tailpiece, etc.)

 

I set them up so both have the same amount of neck relief.

 

Both have the same action.

 

The difference: the distance from the wood to the top of the action adjustment thumbwheel on one of them is 1cm. On the other, it's exactly 2mm lower. I also measured to the top of the low E saddle and the 2mm difference is there. The different thumbwheel heights are immediately noticeable, which is why I pulled out the ruler in the first place.

 

One is set up in E standard and the other in C# standard, but I controlled for this by putting the C# guitar into E standard and with the same strings. Doesn't matter if I have 12s on it in C# or 9s in E standard, the thumbwheel/saddles are clearly lower than on the other guitar.

 

The only possible variable I'm immediately aware of: on the C# guitar, the tailpiece came stock a little lower, and this is the guitar with the lower thumbwheel. But I'm not seeing how that can dictate a lower bridge.

 

Any ideas why this is? They both play great, but when things that should be the same are different, I gotta ask why.

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This is due to neck set angle tolerances. Gibson usually specifies +/- 15' from nominal value, resulting in +/- 2.74 mm bridge height variation for 628.65 mm scale length at a given setup. My Gibson guitars are varying strongly but still clearly within this range.

 

Please refer to these pics of Les Paul guitars:

 

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Somehow I knew that if you saw this thread, you would have a dazzlingly precise answer, and there it is. Your pics reflect almost the exact same variation I'm observing. Many thanks, as always!

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Hey Capmaster have you posted any pics of the purple one? Man i LOVE this colour!

Greetz Marcos

There are two in other topics, and for your convenience I link them here despite of being off-topic.

COMMENT: The second pic shows her in the Custom case of a different Les Paul guitar.

 

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Wooooow, man i mean wow!

How can it.....maaaan!

Almost wordless, if ihad the money and wanted someone to build me a custom guitar this would be the finish.

Maybe someday i´m lucky and can have one like yours in my collection.

Breath-taking beatyfull. I love it.

Thanks a lot, tonight i will have purple dreams.msp_thumbup.gif

Wirklich vielen, vielen Dank.eusa_clap.gif

Gruss Marcos

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They made them with five different top stains, and all of them came with natural sides and backs. There are no reliable informations on numbers of items, but 30 per colour can be considered as a sensible suggestion. They were GC Exclusives in the USA. Only very few made it to Europe, nine of them to UK, but none in Regal Purple among these. Mine has been the only one I found brand-new at a dealer in Germany.

 

You may refer to the following GC Platinum archive links. Don't get shocked by the $4,799.00 MSRP, they sold for $2,999.99 then.

 

http://platinum.guitarcenter.com/Guitars/view_listing.cfm?prodId=19354

 

http://platinum.guitarcenter.com/Guitars/view_listing.cfm?prodId=19285

 

http://platinum.guitarcenter.com/Guitars/view_listing.cfm?prodId=20660

 

http://platinum.guitarcenter.com/Guitars/view_listing.cfm?prodId=21318

 

http://platinum.guitarcenter.com/Guitars/view_listing.cfm?prodId=20170&subCat=51

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Thanks again they are all beatyfull, but for me purple looks absolutely stunning.

You are a lucky man, congratulations.

I guess if I were a collector and had had the money then, I would have tried buying one of them each. However, it would have been a problem to get a Royal Blue one in Europe.

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I guess if I were a collector and had had the money then, I would have tried buying one of them each. However, it would have been a problem to get a Royal Blue one in Europe.

 

Nice combo with Blue and the natural wood on the neck and back though.

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Nice combo with Blue and the natural wood on the neck and back though.

To me this is the very appeal of their looks. I think they should offer some more Les Paul guitars with stained top and natural coat all around. It's just stunning with a nice top figuring.

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