Dave F Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I picked this up today locally off CL. Excellent condition, plays and sound great. Good price. One issue. The pick guard was not being used and when I put it on its a little warped. Does anyone have any little tricks to straighten it out? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead88 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 If I faced a decision like that , with the pick guard shown , I'd leave it off. The guitar is very nice !!! , the pick guard is hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 If I faced a decision like that , with the pick guard shown , I'd leave it off. The guitar is very nice !!! , the pick guard is hideous. I've got plenty that look the same. I like the variance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Got an iron and an ironing board? Place the pickguard face down, cover it with a thin cloth, like a dish drying towel, set the heat on high and give it a couple of quick hard passes. Works to take the curve down on hockey sticks, maybe it'll work here... YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Mmmm, Rosewood Jumbo! Congrats. The pickguard is cool, when seen in it's historical context, just like the stair step guard & headstock on RichG's '39 J-55. 'Just that the elevated p/g tends to be a bit percussive when playing. Perhaps you could ring Chicago Music Exchange and shoot them a pic; if they still have their '34 Jumbo Re-ish, they could tell you that yours is only a tad higher than normal. I'm sure a gradual reshape could be accomplished with an iron, ironing board edge, the 'guard wrapped in a towel, and patience, if so inclined. Craigslist just moved up a notch ; ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 Mmmm, Rosewood Jumbo! Congrats. The pickguard is cool, when seen in it's historical context, just like the stair step guard & headstock on RichG's '39 J-55. 'Just that the elevated p/g tends to be a bit percussive when playing. Perhaps you could ring Chicago Music Exchange and shoot them a pic; if they still have their '34 Jumbo Re-ish, they could tell you that yours is only a tad higher than normal. I'm sure a gradual reshape could be accomplished with an iron, ironing board edge, the 'guard wrapped in a towel, and patience, if so inclined. Craigslist just moved up a notch ; ). I think your faded rose link got me searching although this is not short scale. So this one's on you. I was concerned about the long scale but once I played it, it felt really good. I'm starting to like the V-neck contours. This popped up on CL yesterday and the guy owned a business close to where I work so I took a long lunch and checked it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 That is not a warped pickguard.it's a raised one . They did it on the 1994 centennial jumbos. It looks a bit crooked but not warped JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Sorry about the contagious GAS, Dave... Can't find the info; is that full long scale, or like the long short-scale/short long-scale of the 000'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I can't really tell from the photo if the PG is black or tortoise, but a non-cutaway bound L5 pickguard is a readily available part (in either color). If your straightening procedures don't work, I would install one of these: http://www.allparts.com/PG-9817-043-Bound-Tortoise-L-5-Pickguard_p_2784.html I have used the part shown above, and found them to be of equal or greater quality than the old Gibson originals. Simply due to age of the guard, and inevitable off-gassing of the celluloid (if tortoise), I would just replace it any way as "preventive" maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I would first just try placing the pickguard under a bunch of heavy book As well as the iron and some damp towels, assuming the pickguard is not made of celluloid you could always put it between two pieces of glass and bake in an oven set on low for a bit. Others swear by using a hair dryer followed by placing heavy books on top of it using wax paper to separate the pickguard from the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 That is not a warped pickguard.it's a raised one . They did it on the 1994 centennial jumbos. It looks a bit crooked but not warped JC Definitely warped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sorry about the contagious GAS, Dave... Can't find the info; is that full long scale, or like the long short-scale/short long-scale of the 000'? Center of saddle is 25.3" from the nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I can't really tell from the photo if the PG is black or tortoise, but a non-cutaway bound L5 pickguard is a readily available part (in either color). If your straightening procedures don't work, I would install one of these: http://www.allparts....ard_p_2784.html I have used the part shown above, and found them to be of equal or greater quality than the old Gibson originals. Simply due to age of the guard, and inevitable off-gassing of the celluloid (if tortoise), I would just replace it any way as "preventive" maintenance. I'll look into a new one. This one is celluloid tortoise and does have a few gas spots on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 I would first just try placing the pickguard under a bunch of heavy book As well as the iron and some damp towels, assuming the pickguard is not made of celluloid you could always put it between two pieces of glass and bake in an oven set on low for a bit. Others swear by using a hair dryer followed by placing heavy books on top of it using wax paper to separate the pickguard from the books. I'll give the pressure method a try first. I measured the bow width-wise and length-wise and then clamped it onto a board. I'll check it every few days to see if it's responding. Since it is celluloid I'll avoid the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 I spoke to my luthier today. He said to use a hair dryer and get it warm but not to hot to handle. That will make it pliable and able to bend. I tried it and it worked well. Here's a before and after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Exxxcellent. Now- as you know, major curiosity here about how this one sounds. You've measured 25.3" scale length; approaching the AJ's scale length of 25.5", but bracing which favors a different tone (?). Have you given a look under the hood? Compared it with anything similar in your herd? Any with/without p'guard tone tests? A question for Gib history buffs: why didn't Gibson do anything short scale, like it's off-brand Recording King Ray Whitley, or the odd '40's Southern Jumbo, in rosewood? To that extent, the long-scale rosewood AJ of the 1930's was in very low production numbers, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Exxxcellent. Now- as you know, major curiosity here about how this one sounds. You've measured 25.3" scale length; approaching the AJ's scale length of 25.5", but bracing which favors a different tone (?). Have you given a look under the hood? Compared to anything similar in your herd? Any with or without 'guard tone tests? A question for Gib history buffs: why didn't Gibson do anything short scale, like it's off-brand Recording King Ray Whitley, or the odd '40's Southern Jumbo, in rosewood? To that extent, the long-scale rosewood AJ of the 1930's was in very low production numbers, too. Here's a few shots under the hood. When I feel like changing some strings, I'll A/B/C it with the AJ Walnut and J200 RW. May have to sneak in the D41 Special. First impressions - Very comfortable V profile neck. Guitar rumbles like the AJ. These are the only two guitars I have that vibrate that much. Lots of volume. Perfect neck angle and setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pittgibson45 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Is it odd that they bolted down the bridge on a re-issue?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Is it odd that they bolted down the bridge on a re-issue?? It may be but they were trying to duplicate a real example from back in the day so I guess that's what that one had. Just a guess. http://web.archive.org/web/20040816181144/http://www.gibson.com/acoustics/1994/1934_Jumbo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 It may be but they were trying to duplicate a real example from back in the day so I guess that's what that one had. Just a guess. Except the bolts are not positioned the same as you would find on a 1930s bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted December 20, 2014 Author Share Posted December 20, 2014 Except the bolts are not positioned the same as you would find on a 1930s bridge. You'll have to take that one up with Ren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 You'll have to take that one up with Ren Nah. Considering an original would cost you $26K a close proximity will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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