Oddvar R Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Hi. Can anyone say anything about this Les Paul from 1977? It's supposed to be deep fire engine red and a test clour for Gibson. I suspect that the neck might be alder, it's a bit lighter than mahogany. (It's a bit more red in real life) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR9 Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Looks like a red Les Paul Custom with possibly changed knobs and pickups. Maybe Seymour Duncan pickups installed at the factory? A photo fo the serial number, back of headstock and the back may be of more help. The neck will be mahogany or maple. Never heard of a Les Paul with an alder neck. 77 had many maple neck Customs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddvar R Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 The previous owner change to DiMarzio. The bodycolur seems much lighter than mahogany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 Hello and welcome to the Forums! Very nice Norlin-era Les Paul Custom You have there! It was rather made in the first half of the decade, than in '77. The form of the serial number, and the big volute suggests that it was made between 1970-1974. Not to mention the ABR-1 bridge (it was superseeded by the Nashville unit in 1975). Color looks to be "Ferrari Red" - but that's color was offered in mid-80s. Maybe it was refinished? Or a custom-order? Who knows. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 The form of the serial number, and the big volute suggests that it was made between 1970-1974. Yes, I'll agree with this statement, as the serial number scheme changed sometime in 1975. A '77 would have an eight-digit SN starting with the date code prefix "06". I HAVE seen this color on a Les Paul Deluxe of the "Embossed Pickup" era (71-72/73). This may also lend itself to the reason the pickup covers were removed (or pickups replaced, as you state). At the time, we thought the Gibson logo stamped on all the pickups was a little over the top, and it only took Gibson a little over a year to figure that out and stop the feature. I would open up the control cavity and see what the potentiometer codes are. You're looking for a seven-digit number on the back of the pots starting with "137", the last four digits are what is important. Many times these code numbers get covered up by the ground wire solder connections, but with four chances, you can usually 'cipher at least one. The pot codes will tell you when the pots were made, and will "imply" a window of manufacture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 ... The pot codes will tell you when the pots were made, and will "imply" a window of manufacture. +1 Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddvar R Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hi and thanks for the great info. I have included a pic of the cavity, you can see some of the numbers on the pots. Number seems to be 1377720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddvar R Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Serialnumber is 06 211720, 06 is 77 isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Interesting... 2Xth week of 1977! Indeed, the serial number is correct for 1977 too! Somehow, I could only see 6-digits of the serial on Your photos... Anyways, the bridge and the form of the serial is strange. I always thought that '75-'77 serials came in this form: Anyone, else to comment on this? Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddvar R Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 The finish seems to be original, no sign of refinishing anywhere on the body. I'm also a bit uncertain what kind of body it is? Gibson says mahogany, but did they clue two, three or more pieces togheter? It seems to be not lamineted the pancake way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Hello! Pancaking was stopped during '77. How many pieces? My '78 Recording is one-piece, but a solid-coloured guitar? Who can tell? Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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