MorrisrownSal Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Guys - anyone own one? Thoughts? How similar is it to a Bird? Any experiences you may have that you share, I would appreciate. I am going to try and play one tomorrow. How different will this sound than my very different SJTV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Does this one have the "paddle" neck block and Fullerplast finish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 This is the guitar, fellas, and I am taking a shot... weather is going to prevent me going into the city to see it tomorrow, and I know Matt, so if it doesn't do it for me (unlikely) I'll just drive it back in to him. I know I would be too bummed if I waited a week and it was gone. I guess I needs to sell something :) http://www.umanovgui...94-gibson-dove/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe M Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Is this the one with the real skinny neck? Beautiful guitar and great price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Is this the one with the real skinny neck? Beautiful guitar and great price. Skinny neck? I am assuming the regular 1 3/4 or 23/32... pretty sure it is in fact. did the 1994s have 60's necks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modoc_333 Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 This is the guitar, fellas, and I am taking a shot... weather is going to prevent me going into the city to see it tomorrow, and I know Matt, so if it doesn't do it for me (unlikely) I'll just drive it back in to him. I know I would be too bummed if I waited a week and it was gone. I guess I needs to sell something :) http://www.umanovgui...94-gibson-dove/ I have a good friend of mine that works there. He used to work with me. His name is Peter. Talk to him when you get there. a real straight shooter. Good guy. And that guitar looks beautiful btw! pretty different from a bird. longer scale and all that maple will sound brighter, etc. but might be cool in it's own right though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 modoc, do you know what kind of tuners these are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpicker Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 So I click on the Umanov link you provided and while I'm there I start looking around at just what else is on the menu. Shouldn't have done that! They have a 1956 J-185 natural that is in just stellar shape. Umanov's has to be an incredibly dangerous place to find oneself. Sal, if you've got the inclination, and since you ARE looking at a maple Gibson, I'd be curious of your impressions. $16 large, whew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Seems it's maple-time for you, Sal. Easy to understand you're tempted by this dark Dove. Very handsome. . Good luck. Btw. where is missourrip. - who was a Bird- then became a Dove-owner too not so long ago. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 I am shocked the interwebs has fairly little on this model. The above one was made in November 1994. I have heard that there can be fit and finish issues on early Bozemon models, but this one looks nice as per the pictures. I will have it in my hands later today and can report back then. I heard it sounds "crisp". It seems weird though. So little out there. My curiosity is very piqued! Usually when I think I am getting a nice fair deal (used), I ultimately find I just bought a Chrysler K car. So-nerves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I played a square Southern Jumbo from this wave (same label thing) a few years ago. I sounded very good, but also a little otherly, kind of modern. Besides being long scale, it had wild grey strum-lines around the s-hole, which didn't look like nitro cellulose lacquer. Could it have been the fuller plast - a concept slightly diffuse to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Never have been a fan of doves. Think its the only Gibson I don't like. Not that my opinion matters I hope it all works out for ya Sal ! Looking forward to the news later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Supposedly fullerplast stopped in 1990? Nitro after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Supposedly fullerplast stopped in 1990? Nitro after that? Probably - this guitar is definitely worth the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Probably - this guitar is definitely worth the ride. We'll see Em7. Unfortunately no matter what I play, if I want to sound like you, I have to be able to play like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Btw. where is missourrip. - who was a Bird- then became a Dove-owner too not so long ago. . Seems as though that bird has flown. MissouriPick has not posted for a while... Escaped. More time for that family-friendly music that he loves. Sal, if you're going in to the city today, it will surely be a Snowbird you will be trying. Maple? Listen for the "bite"... It's in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 Seems as though that bird has flown. MissouriPick has not posted for a while... Escaped. More time for that family-friendly music that he loves. Sal, if you're going in to the city today, it will surely be a Snowbird you will be trying. Maple? Listen for the "bite"... It's in there. I hope Missouri Picker is physically well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Yes, Sal. A good soul, he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 modoc, do you know what kind of tuners these are? Most of the ones I've seen have Grover nickel Keystone. I haven't played that exact version but others I played besides being long scale had a narrow nut with a thin neck. That guitar is real good looking. Good Luck with your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Dove no lando. Mucho snowo. Sit on trucko in coldo. Hope finish no cracko. Woe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewilyfool Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think that is probably a good one, AND one of the prettiest I've seen……what does it sound like??????? We will see!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Well, she arrived! I gave her a few hours - I needed to get away from work today. Nice guitar in amazing condition for a 21 year old guitar... but it was just "meh" to me. It sounded fine, but not enough to make me want to spend the money for a sound that wasn't what I envision in my mind. I drover her back to Manhattan, and back to Matt Umanov's. Matt, by the way, is a great guy, and loves nothing better than to sit with his customers and talk and play guitar. I actually am happy I took the risk, because even though this was not the right guitar for me, I solidified what I like, and I got to hang with Matt. Speaking of the sound you have in your head... sometimes you think you want one thing, and then you play something else and think, "wait... no.. this is the sound." And yes... that happened with Matt. He had a 3 year old D-28 for a good price, and the rest is history! I will try to post a sound comparison with a few of my guitars later this weekend. Oh, by the way... he has a custom shop Martin M-size all Honduran Mahogany with open back ebony tuners that took my breath away. It was possibly the best-sounding Martin I played from any era. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Congratulations Sal. Boy oh boy. A d28 Lucky man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 1425676634[/url]' post='1636871']Congratulations Sal. Boy oh boy. A d28 Lucky man Grunt, I just was playing it back and forth with my SJ. I was shocked by this guitar because I must have played 20 D28s and HD28s before, and found them muddy. Weird. Goes to show you the guitars are individual. Or maybe my ears are changing. By the way Matt had a 1966 D18 for $4,000. I normally am used to D18s being loud and in your face, but that one sounded softer, and sweet. Like a Bird. I don't ever think I will trust my preconceived notions again. Oh, and if money were no object, that '66 would be with me. It was lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Guitars I have played over the last 5 years, always wanted one of those straight-up Martin D-28s. Outside of a few good Gibbys, those stick in my mind the most. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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