lolo_guitar Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 hello i really wonder why the les paul guitars are not easy to play like a strat like Ibanez guitars or SG or PRS. i said that because the neck is a problem : you can notice that the neck is a little fat for the hand under the 15th fret so, are there some Gibson les paul which are easy to play? the models that i would like to have are the 2012-2013 and i read some neck were better for some bends or some radius but i don"t know more about that i don't talk about the neck but when the neck - body are together sooner than others guitars = at the 15th fret this piece of wood prevents an easy access to high frets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 You don't mention a particular model. but.. many Gibson's have a Fat 50's style neck. some others have a Slim 60's style neck.. the 60's neck will be slimmer. I prefer the fat neck, my hand doesn't cramp up like a slim neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dog Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I play the 60's slim taper on my 2013 Signature T...I'm quite fond of it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stein Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The main reason a lot say the Gibson is better for bends is the radius of the fretbaord. Gibsons are traditionally 12" radius, and Fenders are traditionally 7". With a more radiused fretbaord, when you do bends, the string will fret out as you push up because the fretbord is higher in the middle. So, you have to have higher action, or have lower action and have some bends fret out. BUT- those are kinda the old days. MOST Fenders now have flatter radiused fretbaords, 9 1/2" or something like that. Most Ibanez stuff I know of has the flatter 12" Gibson radius. So...the above is an explanation for the "reputation" that Gibson's are easier for bends. However, I wonder if what you are referring to is where the neck joins the body. Les Pauls, in particular, don't have a very long neck in that regard. They have one extra fret over a traditional Strat, and a generous cutaway, but the neck joins the body sooner than a typical Strat. Always been that way. Having said all that, typically, Gibson is known for making really nice, playable necks. As said above, there ARE different neck shapes available. And if anything, while there are many who like the way the origonal Fenders played because of the neck, the newer Fenders are an effort to copy more the way Gibson necks have always been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynoByte Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 That's funny, I had a hell of a time switching from Les Paul to Strat, always hitting the volume knob by accident. Just got used to it by playing for a while and now I don't even think of it. I guess it just takes time to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 hello i really wonder why the les paul guitars are not easy to play like a strat like Ibanez guitars or SG or PRS. i said that because the neck is a problem : you can notice that the neck is a little fat for the hand under the 15th fret so, are there some Gibson les paul which are easy to play? the models that i would like to have are the 2012-2013 and i read some neck were better for some bends or some radius but i don"t know more about that If you prefer playing Ibanez, Fender or PRS then play them. I don't quite understand what you're saying. My LP (50's fat neck) is the easiest guitar to play for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck S Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I love the 60's style neck on both my Les Paul and SG.....not to be over simplistic...but could it be a bad set up...that could make your fingers bleed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ido1957 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 My LP Custom is like a baseball bat compared to my EC Strat. Takes some getting used to. I like the 60's neck but my Custom didn't come with that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hello! Even though, I understand it's also matter of one's anatomical features, I never found any Gibson as hard to play as a Fender. The stiffness of strings due to longer scale-lenght is much more disturbing for me, than any kind of a neck profile. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolo_guitar Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 -60’s neck ok, i must find it - i don’t talk about the neck but take 2 guitars (strat, PRS, ibanez, Charvel) and you will see the differences at the 17th fret -yes my question is not about bends but about “the neck which joins the body” yes! “ the neck joins the body sooner that an strat” ! for my lp it’s at the 15 th fret when ibanez, strat or others is at the 17th fret this is a real problem for me about the price to pay not to play comfortably and in a easy way so i wonder if a les paul is easy to play (except the axcess model) this piece of wood : it blocks an easy access to the highest frets so, when i must play guitar solo, i know it will be difficult if i want to play after the 15 or 17 fret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 These guys aren't slowhanded, still they can handle a Les Paul. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Sutherland Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 These guys aren't slowhanded, still they can handle a Les Paul. Cheers... Bence Spot on Bence! I think the missing TRC on ZW's Custom gives him better access to the higher frets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ...I think the missing TRC on ZW's Custom gives him better access to the higher frets... Hello Bryan! Zakk uses 10-60 strings with low action, mostly tunes to E-flat (and Drop-C#). That's together is calling for buzzing issues. This is why He tweaks the truss rod quite often. Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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btoth76 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Oh, sorry! Forgot about Dave! Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I LIKE that they all feel a little different. I can dig in to my Strats, and my tele and they repsond, playing a fender I think is a bit more visceral. The Les Pauls and SGs, require less "effort" (if you can call it that) due to the scale length and radius. I get along just fine with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 ... The Les Pauls and SGs, require less "effort" (if you can call it that) due to the scale length and radius. ... Exactly! Much softer feel of the strings and fretboard. Also, no substitute for a proper (personalized) setup! It can make big difference! Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolo_guitar Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 so, yes a low action + eb tunings but i don't want to play with a non standard tuning famous guitar players have good techs or special guitars just for them or big hands or they like to suffer lol you can see his finger just in front the 15th fret because we can see that the hand can't go after this normal: there is the neck which blocks the hand with another guitar : the hand can be at the 16th fret John Sykes is the master but he has a black custom LP that i have not so i can't do the comparison this is not why famous guitarist like it that everybody likes it :) question is about the guitar, the action, the gauge strings but i think that every LP is hard to play if you want to reach after the 19th fret the problem with my Epiphone is that the thumb is blocked by the wood of the neck at the 15th fret and i think it's not just my model that is why Slash plays with his guitar in another way: the guitar in direction of the sun :)- if it was easy to play, he wouldn't do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Searcy Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 you can notice that the neck is a little fat for the hand under the 15th fret so, are there some Gibson les paul which are easy to play? i don't talk about the neck but when the neck - body are together sooner than others guitars = at the 15th fret The neck joint has been a complaint about Les Pauls for a lot of players for a long time. You may want to look at these and see if they fit you're style better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Hello! Searcy is right (as always). I guess, You should be looking at other kind of Gibsons too. No tech can do anything with the Les Paul's fret access. At least, not without a jig saw... Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabs Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 You don't mention a particular model. but.. many Gibson's have a Fat 50's style neck. some others have a Slim 60's style neck.. the 60's neck will be slimmer. I prefer the fat neck, my hand doesn't cramp up like a slim neck And introducing the new 2015 extra wide "runway" necks :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymagnum Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 You don't mention a particular model. but.. many Gibson's have a Fat 50's style neck. some others have a Slim 60's style neck.. the 60's neck will be slimmer. I prefer the fat neck, my hand doesn't cramp up like a slim neck maybe the OP was playing this one??? if so, i could see the issue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eracer_Team Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Looks kind of hard to play in 'guitar' normal mode.. I think I'd have to pull out the slide I bought and never learned to use and put that one on my lap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdclmn7 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 My hands are small, my fingers are short, The issue was the access to higher frets, but it was just a matter of getting used to it. That guitar couldn't sound sweeter, or wicked with some distortion, it was worth getting used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Is it only me that sees this and thinks "troll, ignore"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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