Dot68 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Hi Guys, New member here. I've just bought an Epiphone LP Standard Metallic Gold. I think this is a very well appointed guitar for the money,but I can't keep the bloody thing in tune. Tried lubing the nut to no avail.Haven't tried new strings yet,just wondering is changing the nut on these things the only solution? I'm used to rock solid Tele's but I like the shorter scale LP. The pick ups aren't bad to be fair.Frustrated! Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A1Coyote Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 What tuners come with the guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrorboy Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Factory strings can be hit and miss. My 2014 LP Standard came with a nice set of Gibson Brite Wires but I don't know what was on my 2014 ES339 PRO, they were absolutely rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Factory strings can be hit and miss. I'd start here. New strings. Lord only knows how long those factory things have been on there. It's the first thing I do with a new guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot68 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 What tuners come with the guitar? Grover. Seem pretty sturdy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Had terrible problems keeping my LP in tune when I bought it which was cured completely by replacing the badly cut oem nut with a correctly cut one. Cheap(ish) fix and well worth doing before anything else on the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot68 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Replaced the factory strings with GHS Boomers 10's. Seems to be a whole lot better. Thanks Guys 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Replaced the factory strings with GHS Boomers 10's. Seems to be a whole lot better. Thanks Guys 😎 Sometimes it's the simplest of things. Glad it all worked out for your (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weldaar Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Very important to wrap your strings properly. That way they will almost never go out of tune. I always do the wrap lock when re-stringing. http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthread.php?4838-quot-Locking-quot-guitar-strings-on-non-locking-tuners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Very important to wrap your strings properly. That way they will almost never go out of tune. I always do the wrap lock when re-stringing. http://prsguitars.com/forum/showthread.php?4838-quot-Locking-quot-guitar-strings-on-non-locking-tuners I'd been doing it this way for years, and recently decided to try the Taylor Guitar method (precut the strings to length, don't "wrap" them, just start winding. Well, I have two words - Never again I'm back to wrapping them. Have never had any tuning issues this way either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weldaar Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I'd been doing it this way for years, and recently decided to try the Taylor Guitar method (precut the strings to length, don't "wrap" them, just start winding. Well, I have two words - Never again I'm back to wrapping them. Have never had any tuning issues this way either. Â Yeah, I've tried other methods as well. But I figure, if it ain't broke don't fix it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot68 Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Thanks for the info guys.The string change has done the job.Lovely guitar for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 One other thing to remember, Grovers (and others) have a screw that holds the "knob" onto the tuner. That screw also controls the tension on the shaft. Make sure they aren't loose. BUT DO NOT APPLY A LOT OF TORQUE TO THE SCREW! IT WILL BREAK> Just snug it with a small screw driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekster52 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 One thing I have noticed on virtually all of my Epiphones (Dots, Sgs & Crestwood) is the nut slotting. The slots tend to be too tight, and they are not slotted deep enough, particularly on the B & G strings. Of course this tight slotting can result in the guitar being out of tune after bends, or using the vibrato. Open chords can sound disharmonic when playing open chords if the slotting is not deep enough. The result is notes within the chord having a sharper pitch because the string is being slightly stretched since it it actually too high. If you do not plan to replace the nut, at least have it re-slotted (ease the slots). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve112 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 One thing I have noticed on virtually all of my Epiphones (Dots, Sgs & Crestwood) is the nut slotting. The slots tend to be too tight, and they are not slotted deep enough, particularly on the B & G strings. Of course this tight slotting can result in the guitar being out of tune after bends, or using the vibrato. Open chords can sound disharmonic when playing open chords if the slotting is not deep enough. The result is notes within the chord having a sharper pitch because the string is being slightly stretched since it it actually too high. If you do not plan to replace the nut, at least have it re-slotted (ease the slots). This!^^^^^^^^^! The importance of a properly cut nut can not be overstated! It is essential to precise intonation AND tuning stability. There are of course other factors eg; fret level, relief, saddles, decent tuners. However these will all fail their part when the nut is imprecise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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