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Any information (other than the serial number database) on the four BRW R7 prototypes from 2003? R7 3001, R7 3005,R7 3006 and R7 3009 ? I was wondering what was different in these four from each other as well as from the production runs? Do any "notes" or information exist in the Historic shop files?

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Any information (other than the serial number database) on the four BRW R7 prototypes from 2003? R7 3001, R7 3005,R7 3006 and R7 3009 ? I was wondering what was different in these four from each other as well as from the production runs? Do any "notes" or information exist in the Historic shop files?

 

If you know of serial number database I'd like to know about it?

 

Sorry for the hijack.

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It is quite possible that they made them for a celebrity to come in and try as a prototype for a signature model or for stage appearances. Maybe? They would sometimes stamp some prototype so they would remain at the shop for a while and later be sold. Not saying that is the case with those.

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If you know of serial number database I'd like to know about it?

 

Sorry for the hijack.

 

2003:

 

1954 Reissue, ranging from 43001-43150

-within this range of numbers, 37 are '54 Black Beautys

-43001-43006 are 1-pickup '54 Goldtops that went to Dave's Guitar in WI. i am assuming these got BR

 

1956 Reissue, ranging from 63001-63148

-the only exception here is that number 63126 does not exist as far as i can tell

 

1957 Reissue, ranging from 73010-73707

-numbers below 73010 either have 2002 specs (73001, 73005, 73006, 73007), are prototypes (R7:73004; LP Junior: 73002, 73003) or do not exist

-within this range, 231 are 2 or 3 pickup '57 Black Beautys

-26 are LP Juniors

-73431-73438 do not exist

 

1958 Reissue, ranging from 83001-83256

-83001-83008 are prototypes (83001-83004, 83007, 83008), and 2 of these are LP Juniors (83005, 83006). 83009 is a quilt top R8 that went to Guitar Center

-within this range 29 are LP Juniors

-1 is a korina explorer

-83046, 83047, and 83087 do not exist

 

1959 Reissue, ranging from 93001-93674

-93001-93006 are prototypes

-93008 has 2002 specs

-3 are korina Flying Vs

 

1960 Reissue, ranging from 03001-03163

-03001-03010 are prototypes (except for 03007 (not a proto) and 03002 (2002 specs)), and 2 of these are LP Specials

-it appears that 03007 DOES have BR

-within this range, 21 are LP Specials

-48 are non-Historic GC '60 LPs, none of which have BR

 

Gary Rossington SG

-13001-13075 have Brazilian Rosewood

 

 

This DOES NOT tell me what I want to know but it is the serial number database for 2003 BRW Historic Les Paul guitars.

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It is quite possible that they made them for a celebrity to come in and try as a prototype for a signature model or for stage appearances. Maybe? They would sometimes stamp some prototype so they would remain at the shop for a while and later be sold. Not saying that is the case with those.

 

 

Mine is not stamped "prototype" ,it is listed in the above database as a prototype ..."(73001, 73005, 73006, 73007), are prototypes" ...One would think on a forum ran by Gibson that someone would be privy to such information....

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Mine is not stamped "prototype" ,it is listed in the above database as a prototype ..."(73001, 73005, 73006, 73007), are prototypes" ...One would think on a forum ran by Gibson that someone would be privy to such information....

 

That is true many were not marked but held as prototypes or as in-house demo guitars, but the company may want the information held as confidential for many reasons such as when they would be held for an artist. Also the people that can look up the information for you, like customer service, has limited data to view in the electronic databases. Much of the prototypes and custom orders are still recorded on paper and not available to many especially if they are in a different location than where the paper files are located. Yes someone is privy to the information, even the information that is not in a database, but may not have the authority to release that information as Gibson is still a privately owned company and some decisions have to be run up the chain of command and could just get a simple "No" to releasing that information. I really hope you get the information and if so, please pass it along to us. I know that I do not have privy to the information about those guitars.

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