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Hi folks. New member, but old man (60). Probably the last new guitar I'll ever have. Picked it up on Ebay for $600. Ron Ellis is making me some different P90s (these are kinda hot for me, I like weak pickups) and Ron is the very best.

 

Going back to my Who/Pete Townshend roots. Plays like a dream and once I got strings broken in, it stays in tune fairly well. Not as well as a Tele but not bad. Gigging it Thursday night. Glad to meet y'all.

 

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'61 SG Special RI.

 

Hello!

 

There is a '67 Special Reissue, and a '61 Standard Reissue.

 

The guitar on the picture is a Gibson SG Special 60s Tribute with it's TRC and pickguard replaced.

 

A beauty, anyways! [thumbup]

 

Cheers... Bence

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OK. Nice SG, she needs a Nashville to ABR bridge conversion, an amber switch tip, knob pointers and a blank Gibson TRC to be perfect IMHO [wink]

 

I forgot : a Brown Gibson/TKL with pink interior case [thumbup]

What is the point of the conversion? Are the Nashville bridges really shitty?

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Hello!

 

Yes, that it is. No fretboard binding, silk-screened Gibson logo, and satin finish. These details all lead to this conclusion: it's a SG Special 60s Tribute model. Someone replaced the pickguard with a multi-ply piece, and put on a unique truss rod cover. Also, the machine heads got replaced.

 

Any of the Reissues will have gloss or V.O.S. finish, fretboard binding, and - of course - ABR-1 bridge.

 

Nashville units are OK, they provide more room for intonation setting than the ABR-1. Some prefer the latter, due to better coupling of the bridge with the body, since the post screws go directly into it. Nashville's thumwheels are screwed into a bushing, which is pressed into the body.

 

Cheers... Bence

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What is the point of the conversion? Are the Nashville bridges really shitty?

All a matter of taste but the conversions are nice. The Nashville is a newer design that started around 1975 so if you have a 60's reissue, it's more fitting.

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Nothing says nasty like an SG with Gibby P90s.. I have a classic,, it just screams!!!!

 

But, to each his own,, hope your mod goes well with the other pickups.

Oh, these ARE P90s. Just not as hot. More like '50s P90s. Alnico 3.

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Hello!

 

Yes, that it is. No fretboard binding, silk-screened Gibson logo, and satin finish. These details all lead to this conclusion: it's a SG Special 60s Tribute model. Someone replaced the pickguard with a multi-ply piece, and put on a unique truss rod cover. Also, the machine heads got replaced.

 

Any of the Reissues will have gloss or V.O.S. finish, fretboard binding, and - of course - ABR-1 bridge.

 

Nashville units are OK, they provide more room for intonation setting than the ABR-1. Some prefer the latter, due to better coupling of the bridge with the body, since the post screws go directly into it. Nashville's thumwheels are screwed into a bushing, which is pressed into the body.

 

Cheers... Bence

I like the guitar. Nice piece. Love the sound. But I love A3 magnets more, and weaker windings. My other guitar for fretted stuff is a Tele, and so weaker pups in the SG mean no tweaking of amp controls on a gig, just switch for a sound and go.

 

I replaced the pegs, myself,. DOn't like Gibson Klusons. Fenders, I like Klusons. Gibs, I like Grovers.

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Hello!

 

If You prefer vintage sounding P-90s, this one would be a nice replacement for the stock units: http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/specialized/p-90-guitar-pickups/sp901_vintage_s/

 

These people in UK, will make You a custom P90 with any magnet You desire: http://www.creamery-pickups.co.uk/classic-53-p90-pickup.html

 

The guitar is indeed a beauty. When they came out, I had one on pre-order. Unfortunately, - only when I got it in my hands to play it -,I realised it did not fit my tonal needs. Bought a Tele instead.

 

Good luck with the modding!

 

Cheers... Bence

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Hello!

 

If You prefer vintage sounding P-90s, this one would be a nice replacement for the stock units: http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/specialized/p-90-guitar-pickups/sp901_vintage_s/

 

These people in UK, will make You a custom P90 with any magnet You desire: http://www.creamery-pickups.co.uk/classic-53-p90-pickup.html

 

The guitar is indeed a beauty. When they came out, I had one on pre-order. Unfortunately, - only when I got it in my hands to play it -,I realised it did not fit my tonal needs. Bought a Tele instead.

 

Good luck with the modding!

 

Cheers... Bence

Hi Bence. Ron Ellis makes the best pickups in the world (to my ears and a lot of others you've heard of, such as Gilmour, Springsteen, Keef, Fogerty, Joe Walsh, Paisley and many others). OB Full Disclosure: I am an endorser who gets deep discounts. Ron's pickups are VERY expensive, but I believe they are worth it. I have them in all my other electric guitars, a Tele, a Strat and a DCLPJ.

 

Ron's pickups will enable me to get a more vintage sound, but I can use a clean boost to hit the front end a little harder. But I like having the choice.

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  • 1 month later...

Ron Ellis P90s here...WHAT A DIFFERENCE! A3 magnets on the bridge, A2 on the neck pickup. 8.3k bridge, 6.5k. 130uf/150K treble bleed. Freakin' awesome!

 

They're worth it. Not cheap. Just the best.

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both bridge designs can have some issues:

 

Abr-1's posts tend to bend faster over time than the thicker Nashville posts if you have the tailpiece/string angle steep. Both can and do bend but Abr-1's are seen in the shop more often. On occasion the threads in the wood strip too as the abr-1 posts are directly threaded into the wood body.

 

With the nashville, the post bushings/inserts occasionally can tip since they are fairly shallow. If Gibson would increase the bushing/insert depth that could be eliminated. This doesn't happen often, but it shows up.

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