Zentar Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 For the record, despite richlite's excellent stability and hardness qualities and looks, if I had a choice between richlite and a dark ebony fretboard, I'd go with the ebony too. But as a player of less-expensive guitars, as a substitute for black ebony, it doesn't get much better than richlite. Gibson uses Richlite on their custom guitars which are their most expensive guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Gibson uses Richlite on their custom guitars which are their most expensive guitars. No, they aren't. I'm still waiting for you to post something correct and factual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I've always lusted for a Desert Supreme ... I'm very disappointed in their choice of both fingerboard material and pickups. http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Supreme.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Gibson uses Richlite on their custom guitars which are their most expensive guitars. Well, if I could afford it, I'd buy an older used one, with ebony. I kinda like that CJ-165.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Twenty five years from now, when the FDA releases warnings that resins used in Richlite causes knuckle cancer and sever brain misbehavior in a test group, don't come back here belly aching! I'll still be playing my 1947 Gibson L-4 or it will be buried with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Twenty five years from now, when the FDA releases warnings that resins used in Richlite causes knuckle cancer and sever brain misbehavior in a test group, don't come back here belly aching! I'll still be playing my 1947 Gibson L-4 or it will be buried with me! Or that the process used to manufacture Richlite creates fumes that eventually make their way to and kill ebony trees ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxson50 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 1436737913[/url]' post='1675399']Or that the process used to manufacture Richlite creates fumes that eventually make their way to and kill ebony trees ... OMG! It's a circular logic conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I have it on good authority that Micarta, Richlite and Ebanol all cause testicular cancer in laboratory test mice. That's why classical guitarists boycott the material. Flying V players who play seated should be leery, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Here's the MSDS for Richlite from the Richlite Co. - MSDS The phenol formaldehyde resins are completely cured, so I wouldn't be worried about that. Check out the part about skin contact though. I didn't find a MSDS for rosewood or ebony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_L Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'm sure Nitrocellulose Lacquer is a really healthy and safe chemical composition too. Care to give us the MSDS for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 ...Check out the part about skin contact though... With all due respect, BBP... "May". That word in this context is utterly meaningless without further clarification. Does it depend on the actual piece of material in question? The conditions under which the material is being used/stored/worked? The skin-type / bodily secretions of the individual? "May" sounds like a legal-ese get-out-of-jail-free card. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'm sure Nitrocellulose Lacquer is a really healthy and safe chemical composition too. Care to give us the MSDS for that? ... "May" sounds like a legal-ese get-out-of-jail-free card. Pip. Hello! Shall we really need to worry about a slight possibility (0,001%???) of Richlite causing any harm to our health, when we breath what nitrocellulose evaporates right into our faces for decades long? Best wishes... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveFord Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I was only kidding about the testicular cancer in mice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I don't think rosewood and ebony are chemicals. Rosewood and ebony woods are both composed of a variety of chemical compounds (mostly a cocktail of various hydrocarbons). Do you really want to know how toxic certain aspects of woods can be? OK. Here's a general overview - go directly to pages 4 & 5 if you want to get straight to the point; http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/wis30.pdf And something more specific such as, say, Essential Rosewood Oil? http://www.aromantic...s/rosewood.aspx Clearly, considering how dangerous wood is, it's a wonder we guitarists are not all dead!.... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 ...it's a wonder we guitarists are not all dead!.... Pip. Hello Pippy! Some of them are! Best wishes... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Some of them are! You know....you're correct!............................ Right. That settles it. I'm going to take up the Tuba instead... P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 You know....you're correct!............................ Right. That settles it. I'm going to take up the Tuba instead... P. Oh... I have readed somewhere that the risk of cerebral accident is higher within woodwind players. Best wishes... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Well, that's a relief. Fortunately for me, Bence, the Tuba is a member of the Brass Family. Unlike the woodwind-y Saxophone, of course, whose adherents will run the 'Cerebral Haemorrhaging' risk as highlighted in your post... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btoth76 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Well, that's a relief. Fortunately for me, Bence, the Tuba is a member of the Brass Family. Unlike the Saxophone, of course, whose adherents will run the 'Cerebral Haemorrhaging' risk as highlighted in your post... Pip. I felt that I'll run into this mistake. I knew it. :D Cheers... Bence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I don't think rosewood and ebony are chemicals. Yes, interestingly both species are made up entirely of matter not found on the periodic table of elements. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Yes, interestingly both species are made up entirely of matter not found on the periodic table of elements. :D I swapped-out my Richlite 'board for one made from Kryptonite. It helps me play faster than a.....................oh, nevermind. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Rosewood and ebony woods are both composed of a variety of chemical compounds (mostly a cocktail of various hydrocarbons). Do you really want to know how toxic certain aspects of woods can be? OK. Here's a general overview - go directly to pages 4 & 5 if you want to get straight to the point; http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/wis30.pdf And something more specific such as, say, Essential Rosewood Oil? http://www.aromantic...s/rosewood.aspx Clearly, considering how dangerous wood is, it's a wonder we guitarists are not all dead!.... Pip. I wonder what wood (:)) happen if you were to oil your Richlite fingerboard with rosewood oil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I wonder what wood (:)) happen if you were to oil your Richlite fingerboard with rosewood oil? The resultant chemical reaction is almost too frightening to contemplate... The initial symptom would be A# shock after which your heart-rate graph would Bb as you enter the terminal cardiac arrest phase. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobF_ Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I wonder what wood (:)) happen if you were to oil your Richlite fingerboard with rosewood oil? The resultant chemical reaction is almost too frightening to contemplate... The initial symptom would be A# shock after which your heart-rate graph would Bb as you enter the terminal cardiac arrest phase. Pip. That's more severe than I imagined! I was thinking it would cause the guitar to tune to 432 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 That's more severe than I imagined! I was thinking it would cause the guitar to tune to 432 ... ...or more likely, as we are talking about Richlite - which is essentially paper - it would spontaneously combust at Farenheit 451......... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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