JayceK Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I have an Epiphone/Gibson electric guitar that i bought a little over 10 years ago from a great music store in my hometown. I listed it on CL, and started getting some questions that have peaked my interest. As you can see in the pictures, it has both Epiphone and Gibson listed on the front but doesn't really say what it is. I've looked around and couldn't find any guitars like mine that had both names on this style. Maybe i just didn't look hard enough though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 6 String Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I have an Epiphone/Gibson electric guitar that i bought a little over 10 years ago from a great music store in my hometown. I listed it on CL, and started getting some questions that have peaked my interest. As you can see in the pictures, it has both Epiphone and Gibson listed on the front but doesn't really say what it is. I've looked around and couldn't find any guitars like mine that had both names on this style. Maybe i just didn't look hard enough though. What you have there is an older Epiphone LP100 http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Les-Paul-100.aspx Good luck with your sale. Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayceK Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 What you have there is an older Epiphone LP100 http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Les-Paul/Les-Paul-100.aspx Good luck with your sale. Johnny Hey Johnny, Thanks for the help. I wonder why it doesn't have the LP writing in the middle of the headstock like in the link you posted..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 6 String Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hey Johnny, Thanks for the help. I wonder why it doesn't have the LP writing in the middle of the headstock like in the link you posted..? Hey Jayce Your welcome. The link is to the current production model, yours is an older production date. Not sure what year they changed from the Gibson truss rod cover to ones with model designations. I have a couple older Epis that have the same Gibson text and some newer ones that list only the model. There is a pretty comprehensive epi wiki but not sure that it lists the year of change for truss rod covers either, been a while since a browsed through it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayceK Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hey Jayce Your welcome. The link is to the current production model, yours is an older production date. Not sure what year they changed from the Gibson truss rod cover to ones with model designations. I have a couple older Epis that have the same Gibson text and some newer ones that list only the model. There is a pretty comprehensive epi wiki but not sure that it lists the year of change for truss rod covers either, been a while since a browsed through it myself. Ahh ok, that makes sense. When I listed it for sale and people started asking questions it got me really interested in what year it was made and model number and all that jazz. I was just interested in getting a little money back on what I paid for it but appreciate the info and finding out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingarmadillo Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 People may be asking what year it was made because the serial number is strange. It appears to be in <Factory Code/YY/MM/sequence number> format. MC would be Muse (China), but 22 as the year number isn't really an option (1922?) Or maybe I'm just reading the number wrong in the photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayceK Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 People may be asking what year it was made because the serial number is strange. It appears to be in <Factory Code/YY/MM/sequence number> format. MC would be Muse (China), but 22 as the year number isn't really an option (1922?) Or maybe I'm just reading the number wrong in the photo? Ya model number is MC22081581. Not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingarmadillo Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Ya model number is MC22081581. Not sure? I did a little more looking, apparently Muse wasn't that good at keeping to Epi standards for serial numbers. There are a bunch of threads here about similar ones. Probably a 2002 or 2003 - you could call Gibson Customer Service and they might be able to figure out when it came into the country.: http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/57776-used-epiphone/ http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/51515-fake-epiphone-les-paul-special-ll/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creekster52 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 From the Guitar Dater Project: http://www.guitardaterproject.org/epiphone.aspx Guitar Info Your guitar was made at the Muse Plant, China August 1922 Production Number: 1581 Muse Incorporated Muse Incorporated has been in existence for 10 years, Headquartered in Inchon, Korea, with additional plants in Weifang, China. Muse builds guitars, basses and amplifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingarmadillo Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 From the Guitar Dater Project: http://www.guitardat...g/epiphone.aspx Guitar Info Your guitar was made at the Muse Plant, China August 1922 Production Number: 1581 Muse Incorporated Muse Incorporated has been in existence for 10 years, Headquartered in Inchon, Korea, with additional plants in Weifang, China. Muse builds guitars, basses and amplifiers. The Guitar Dater Project is notoriously bad, particularly on older guitars. It's maybe better on Fender than Gibson brands. Your best bet is to do a little research on the company websites. Most of them have dating info that Guitar Dater only can generalize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Your guitar was made in China in the year 1622, OK I know that China invented everything but it was a subsidiary of the Indian guitar factory, as those of in the know realize India invented everything, including electricity. So, basically it's a copy of an Indian guitar designed in 1422 and made by Chinese people later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnttnzr Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Hey there!! I am the owner of MC22081987! It had the same pickups and paint job, but I have since upgraded both humbuckers, got new tuners, leveled and crowned frets, fresh bone nut, modded the general aesthetic to suit my style, and rewired for Jimmy Page 50’s Style wiring. It’s a beast!! Love the light weight and not bothered at all by bolt on neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihcmac Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) On 8/13/2015 at 8:35 AM, JayceK said: Ya model number is MC22081581. Not sure? Les Paul - 100 Studio ....... see wiki ........ without Les Paul on the headstock and Gibson on the nut cover would be prior to 2005, probably Aug 2002 product number 1581 from the serial number.. Edited September 11, 2019 by mihcmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJA780425 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Hello, I recently thought I found a good deal on a Gibson Gold top, but I discovered it was made in China. It played well because someone spent a lot of money upgrading everything on it. I started to feel a little cheap and dirty, and I had to put it down. I will own an authentic Les Paul one day, but I’ll play anything while I learn, and really don’t have the money to drop now anyway. I can, however, spend $350 on a beautiful red sunburst Eppiphone Les Paul and feel good about it. The serial number leads me to the Daewon factory, March of 2003. I can’t tell which model it is, or even if it is legit. If someone was trying to scam someone on a guitar, I would think it would be for a little more money, but I don’t presume to understand why or what about people anymore. Any information would be very educational for me. Thanks for reading. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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