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Kluson-style tulips no longer green?


Jesse_Dylan

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Ever since Em7 mentioned it, I've been thinking. How come the Gotoh-made, Vintage-style (i.e. "Kluson-style") Keystone (i.e. "Tulip") tuners don't have green tulips anymore? The old TV models had green ones.

 

What color were the actual vintage Klusons?

 

I feel a little cheated. My distressed gold tuners are more like a very old-looking white. Quite attractive, actually, but not green. And you guys will hate me, but they're not as good as the Grover Sta-tites or Rotomatics I'm used to. :)

 

I would foot the bill to get whatever tuners installed on my Bird, but I like these because they're period-correct. It would look goofy with Rotomatics on it.

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How "green" is green"? I replaced the original tulips on my 1974 J-50 a few years ago with the Gibson vintage tuners like these: http://store.gibson.com/vintage-machine-heads/

 

They are not really green, but definitely have a greenish tint. They don't look like antique white.

 

tulips.jpg

 

FWIW, WD Music Products owns the Kluson trademark now and produces a pretty big variety of replicas. We discussed this at some length in a thread I started when changing tuners on my 65 J-50. You can download their full catalog here but there aren't a lot of pictures. http://www.wdmusic.com/Catalog_Download/Kluson_Catalog_2015.pdf

 

The pearl tulip in the middle of page 11 looks greenish to me. :)

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Yeah, good point! It's hard to tell what is really green, green-tinted, or just cream that for some reason appears a bit green. I can confirm that my Gotoh "Klusons" on my Vintage are probably not able to ever be construed as green or green tint, though. They are definitely cream as cream can be. I agree the page 11 ones definitely look like a greenish tint (and see-thru??).

 

These ones look more minty, but who knows!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Set-of-3-a-side-Wilkinson-Deluxe-Kluson-Type-machine-heads-tuners-FREE-POSTAGE-/141759831376

 

I should probably just be happy with them the way they are. :) To be honest, as tuners, I do not particularly like them, but they seem adequate if not good, and I do really love the look. If Waverly made something that looked Gibson-like, I might go for that on a different guitar, but it seems like a Hummingbird needs these!

 

Love that headstock on your J-50. The tuners look really nice on it. I have been thinking of trying to make my J-15 look more '60s or '70s with chrome keystone tuner buttons.

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The "Kluson style" tulip tuners I'm familiar with all have the "Gibson" pearloid buttons. Maybe your tuners don't quite go back as far. I do love their looks!

 

Yep, I think the tulips are more the 1960s type style. Before that, it was all about the pearloid or ivoroid buttons!

 

I tried to find some pearloid/ivoroid buttons for Mini Grover Rotomatics to put on my J-15, but I didn't have much luck. Did find some nice chrome keystone buttons, but I wonder if they'll look funny since it's a small headstock instead of the bigger '70s style. I'm happy to see them apparently using that big headstock on the SJ-100 Walnut.

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The "Kluson style" tulip tuners I'm familiar with all have the "Gibson" pearloid buttons. Maybe your tuners don't quite go back as far. I do love their looks!

 

I believe I got the pearloid tulips in the photo above in 2013, they are the ones in the Gibson link I posted. Got them at Guitar Center. Actually, the original tuners on that 1974 J-50 had the shiny nickel buttons, but I broke one of them 30 years ago and replaced it with something completely different. So when I had that guitar fixed up in 2013, I replaced them with the new pearloid buttons.

 

But that was before I realized there are so many different varieties available from different places. If I was doing it today, I would replace them with replicas of the original nickel buttons since they are readily available. :)

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