357bullfrog Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I finally got my new riviera p93 set up and intimated right. It came supposedly set up right but sadly it wouldn't stay in tune with a act of congress so I got on YouTube and found the proper way plus I added a bricksbigsfix on the b70 to help with the extreme string angle. Has anyone else had this tuning trouble? I really like the guitar but I was to the point of returning it and getting a cheap fender . This is probly a old thread.... Again but I'll go ahead and risk it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357bullfrog Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Uhh I mean intonated but y'all knew that already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPS1976 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 could be anything from the nut to the tuners to the way you use the Bigsby. personally I'd start with the nut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis G Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I don't own or have I ever played a Riviera, but I do have four guitars with Bigsby's (3 Epi's and a Gretsch). I'll admit to only using it for "subtle" effects, no dive bombing, etc. I have zero tuning issues, but as stated if you do, I'd start with the nut. A roller bridge is probably the next step. Trade it for a cheap Fender? Puhleeze!!! (I keec Fender, guys, I keed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyRay Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Strings could be hanging on the nut. I had same issue with my emporer swingster. Just needed the string slots filed a little... no issues now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357bullfrog Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 I don't own or have I ever played a Riviera, but I do have four guitars with Bigsby's (3 Epi's and a Gretsch). I'll admit to only using it for "subtle" effects, no dive bombing, etc. I have zero tuning issues, but as stated if you do, I'd start with the nut. A roller bridge is probably the next step. Trade it for a cheap Fender? Puhleeze!!! (I keec Fender, guys, I keed). Thanks Dennis and all you guys. I was thinking s roller bridge might help a lot too. I greased the nut with pencil lead and helped a lot. All I use a bigsby for is just a tiny it if tremolo effect now and again. I've even seen roller nuts. What's yalls thoughts on them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357bullfrog Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 I forgot. The cheap fender as in made in China or worse yet Vietnam ! Lol. I agree. Noooooo way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPS1976 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I forgot. The cheap fender as in made in China or worse yet Vietnam ! Lol. I agree. Noooooo way your Riviera P93 is made in China...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyGhost Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I forgot. The cheap fender as in made in China or worse yet Vietnam ! Lol. I agree. Noooooo way Whoo, you're heading into tiger country there . I say that as I own a Squire (by Fender - note they actually put their name to it) CV 50's Telecaster Butterescotch Blonde. One heck of a guitar, especially at the price point, very well made and plays superbly. I love it as much as I love my Gibson Les Paul Studio Pro which cost over four time more than I paid for the Squire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledge57 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Whoo, you're heading into tiger country there . I say that as I own a Squire (by Fender - note they actually put their name to it) CV 50's Telecaster Butterescotch Blonde. One heck of a guitar, especially at the price point, very well made and plays superbly. I love it as much as I love my Gibson Les Paul Studio Pro which cost over four time more than I paid for the Squire. First I love my CV Tele, that ones for life... Second I really wanted one of those Rivera's but I've come to realize I don't like guitars with 3 pups. I put up with it on my Strat because it's a Strat, but I had 2 really nice PRS' (read Expensive...) with 3 pups and got rid of both of them, 3rd pups always in my way. Last my new Casino has a Bigsby and it drives me CRAZY! It's not the nut on mine, Bigsby is just stiff and has a crazy string angle, waiting for new softer spring (long story short, Reverend Guitars shipped it and now there's postage due so USPS is holding it hostage) Going to look into the BricksBiggsFix as soon as I post this msg.... Chrome BricksBiggsFix for B70 not in stock, Arrrgggghhhh........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyGhost Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Yeah, I read your signature line on your stable and figured you were having a frustrating time. I couldn't resist a tongue in cheek response (sorry.) Hope it works out as the issues you have encountered can be a PITA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeko Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 First I love my CV Tele, that ones for life... Second I really wanted one of those Rivera's but I've come to realize I don't like guitars with 3 pups. I put up with it on my Strat because it's a Strat, but I had 2 really nice PRS' (read Expensive...) with 3 pups and got rid of both of them, 3rd pups always in my way. Riviera's come with two New York style pups no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sledge57 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Riviera's come with two New York style pups no? The P93's have 3 P90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeko Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 The P93's have 3 P90's Ah, missed that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinTheHood Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Change the strings. Seriously. If it came with Epiphone brand strings, they will not stay in tune. Trust me on this. You should always put new strings on a new guitar anyway, so you might as well cross that off the list right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357bullfrog Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Whoo, you're heading into tiger country there . I say that as I own a Squire (by Fender - note they actually put their name to it) CV 50's Telecaster Butterescotch Blonde. One heck of a guitar, especially at the price point, very well made and plays superbly. I love it as much as I love my Gibson Les Paul Studio Pro which cost over four time more than I paid for the Squire. i was just seeing what kinda can of worms I'd open. Sorry if I insulted you I have a 78 telecaster myself I've played since it was new and I had black hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357bullfrog Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Whoo, you're heading into tiger country there . I say that as I own a Squire (by Fender - note they actually put their name to it) CV 50's Telecaster Butterescotch Blonde. One heck of a guitar, especially at the price point, very well made and plays superbly. I love it as much as I love my Gibson Les Paul Studio Pro which cost over four time more than I paid for the Squire. i was just seeing what kinda can of worms I'd open. Sorry if I insulted you I have a 78 telecaster myself I've played since it was new and I had black hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody78 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 My P93 Riviera was not set up at all when I bought it new a few years ago. I had to lower the bridge, adjust the truss rod and clean the entire fingerboard as it had a black dirty substance that rubbed off on my fingers when I played it. After that it played and sounded fine. No problems with tuning at all. Normally rubbing some pencil lead on the string contact points (i.e. nut, saddles) helps reduce friction if you're having troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody78 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I forgot. The cheap fender as in made in China or worse yet Vietnam ! Lol. I agree. Noooooo way Not poking fun at you for not knowing the P93 is made in China, but that made me laugh a whole lot! Some Epi's are Korean and some Indonesian and these in my experience tend to be slightly better made. Nothing wrong with Chinese Squiers either if you have a good one. Btw, SmokeyGhost it's Fender 'Squier' not 'Squire' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357bullfrog Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Finally!!!! I got it fixed ! You all each and everyone were correct. It was the nut. I couldn't hear it drag during tuning or a string bend or anything but I was sittin on the edge of my bed looking at it and thinking ... There's gotta be a way to fix this so I happend to think I had a set of tiny little hobby files I'm guessing you'd call em left from when I did a lot of work on Muzzleloading Rifles so I figured what the heck. It's already messed up so I can't hurt it much . I found a file that fit the slots perfectly and I was carefull to just ease it thru gently till it widened the slots and smoothed out the bottom of them. I did the same to the tune o matic bridge saddles and now it actually stays in tune even if I use the bigsby. I don't dive bomb it but I like a little tremolo effect sometimes I move it maybe a quarter inch at most but evidently that's enough to create drag and pinch a string. Anyway. Thank you one and all for the help and advise getting me fixed and getting thru my hardheadedness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357bullfrog Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Riviera's come with two New York style pups no? How did you do away with the middle pup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPS1976 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 How did you do away with the middle pup? you are talking about a Riviera P93...Sleeko is talking about a different Riviera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve112 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Finally!!!! I got it fixed ! You all each and everyone were correct. It was the nut. I couldn't hear it drag during tuning or a string bend or anything but I was sittin on the edge of my bed looking at it and thinking ... There's gotta be a way to fix this so I happend to think I had a set of tiny little hobby files I'm guessing you'd call em left from when I did a lot of work on Muzzleloading Rifles so I figured what the heck. It's already messed up so I can't hurt it much . I found a file that fit the slots perfectly and I was carefull to just ease it thru gently till it widened the slots and smoothed out the bottom of them. I did the same to the tune o matic bridge saddles and now it actually stays in tune even if I use the bigsby. I don't dive bomb it but I like a little tremolo effect sometimes I move it maybe a quarter inch at most but evidently that's enough to create drag and pinch a string. Anyway. Thank you one and all for the help and advise getting me fixed and getting thru my hardheadedness. Excellent news, 357bullfrog. We all want our Epis to play well and have good build quality. Sometimes an extra setup or more is required to achieve this. Epiphone does have the quality to produce really good playing instruments. My perfectly stock Dot needed some setup related work but now plays extraordinarily well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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