GuitArtMan Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 I was wondering if the sides of the CS-336 are thick enough that one could move the strap button to the upper bout? Or is this asking for disaster? I think this would make it more comfortable to play standing up, at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silversurfer Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I have a CS-336 and while it is solid wood, it doesn't appear to be very thick on the sides. I wouldn't feel comfortable about it being secure without at least a small block of wood behind it, like this: http://www.gibson-talk.com/forum/es-sential-hollowbodies/65910-strap-button-placement-thin-hollow-body.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JO'C Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I have one also and wouldn't dare put a hole where it doesn't belong. What if it's not in the right place for good balance? That said, the body starts as a solid piece of mahogany that gets hollowed out; a completely different animal than a 335. So there should be enough wood to drill a hole if you have to. I use a Planet Waves locking strap with pivot ends. I flip the pivot backwards for the peg behind the body and it works great for me for playing while standing; very comfortable and lightweight. I also have a 335 and the larger body makes it uncomfortable for me to play while standing for more than a couple of songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitArtMan Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 I have one also and wouldn't dare put a hole where it doesn't belong. What if it's not in the right place for good balance? That said, the body starts as a solid piece of mahogany that gets hollowed out; a completely different animal than a 335. So there should be enough wood to drill a hole if you have to. I use a Planet Waves locking strap with pivot ends. I flip the pivot backwards for the peg behind the body and it works great for me for playing while standing; very comfortable and lightweight. I also have a 335 and the larger body makes it uncomfortable for me to play while standing for more than a couple of songs. I'm not worried about putting a hole where it doesn't belong. If it makes the guitar hang better on my body then that's where the hole belongs! As for balance, I really don't like having the strap button on the neck heal - it's already out of balance to me. It make the neck stick to far out imho and the body fall forward. Yes my 336 is very light weight, weighing in at a svelte 6.5 pounds, it's probably my lightest guitar. It doesn't get played much however because I don't like the way it hangs on the strap. I believe moving the strap button the upper bout would be a vast improvement for me in making the guitar hang on the strap better. Ever notice where Collings put the strap button on their I35s? Think there might be a reason they placed them there? I'm hoping someone from Gibson would jump in here. Do they ever do that or are they silent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I would have to think that the wood is probbly not thick enough to support the strap without some sort of re-enforcement there, eventually the stress on the wood is going to fail, and it's going to pop out, probably at the most inopportune time.... You could craft a small block of wood to fit the contour of the body where the horn is, and figure out way to get it in side, pull it into position and glue it in place. I think this is the only safe way to go about it. alternately, you could try to contact customer service and see what they think this seems a common complaint with guitars with the strap buttons on the back of the heel.. I have a few guitars like this, and for some reason, for me, it's never a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbluesplayer Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 No. You can't put a strap button on one of the horns without reinforcing the guitar from the inside. But maybe somebody else knows better than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I was wondering if the sides of the CS-336 are thick enough that one could move the strap button to the upper bout? Or is this asking for disaster? ... This would be asking for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 This would be asking for disaster. yep.. I used more words, to say pretty much the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 yep.. I used more words, to say pretty much the same thing... No offense intended, your description of facts and possible approaches is spot-on. I just decided to choose the OP's own words to confirm what an improper solution may invite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 No offense intended, your description of facts and possible approaches is spot-on. I just decided to choose the OP's own words to confirm what an improper solution may invite. ah Cap! no offense what so ever. I appreciate the efficiency is all! There was a uTube clip out some time ago.. some poor sod did the same to his semi hollow.. The video clip showed the moment of failure... BAM! to the floor she goes.. next thing we see is the guitar on the floor with the neck in two pieces "don't let this be you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitArtMan Posted February 17, 2016 Author Share Posted February 17, 2016 I swear I saw a photo of the back/sides of a CS-336 before the top was put on back when they first came out and the sides were fairly thick. I can't for the life of me find a photo now, but the sides are much thicker than on a 335. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 just the same, I'd be very careful. Considering the unknown chance of failure and the inevitable results of that, I'd stay a mile or two away from it. you could contact customer service, but they may tell you nothing helpful. it's your guitar, and you don't need our permission,.... IMHO, it's risky.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayville Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I have a CS-356, and I wouldn't do this to it. And I'd be very careful drawing conclusions from what I'm about to relate... but.... Back when Gibson launched the CS-336, they had a dedicated "Feature" website for the guitar within the larger Gibson site. It had about 15 pages, as I recall, telling of the guitar's design and genesis back with Orville Gibson's desire to build a resonant instrument from carved solid woods. They had a few construction images on the site that showed the routing for the back, and another page that had an artful sort of "Artist's Rendition" of what the guitar might look like in cutaway. This was an illustration, not a photograph and *may* not represent what's actually inside at all (for all I know). And unfortunately for us, Gibson had this image broken into three horizontal panels so it would load easier back in the early website days of dial-up connections, etc. A couple of years after the launch, that site abruptly disappeared from Gibson's website. I went looking for it a year after that using the Internet Wayback Machine - a kind of archive of lost websites. Unfortunately, it only contained the top and bottom panels of the main image, and a very small version of the back routing image. I saved those. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie69 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 May be this could help a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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