JMusic Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Need some help with checking a couple of Gibsons for authenticity/date Think they might be a 1991 classic and a black beauty but not sure if the serial numbers look correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Some here may argue the 'back of the headstock' shot is the most important in verifying authenticity , we will need a few more pictures of the guitar to make an informed decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 . The headstock backs look okay. But as Deeman said - pics of the front of the whole guitar are needed to confirm. From what I can see, as far as I can tell - If the red one is a LP Classic that serial indicates it would be a 2003 - YYRRRR If the black one is a reissue serial it would be a 1957 manufactured in 2009 - M YRRR . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 what would help here are some photos of: the back of the neck, (some where from the nut to the 5th fret is key) if you can see the wood grain. (on the black beauty, that wont help) take off the truss rod cover, take a photo of what the truss rod adjustment fit-up looks like in both. a photo of the entire front of each of the bodies. the front of the head-stocks detailing the logo as best as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yes. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 No-one can say whether any guitar is a genuine Gibson from looking at a serial number. The counterfeiters know how to replicate genuine serial numbers so posting snaps isn't any more conclusive than typing out the numbers would have been. Having said that... Both headstocks have 'wings' - the extra bits of wood out-riding the central neck-stock - which is not normally seen on fakes. Both typefaces are correct for their models - the 'Classic' has slightly oversized digits compared to the 'Re-Issue' - and both are in the correct format and colour for their respective models. The tuners on each would seem to be correct for the respective models. Lastly; I've never seen (or even heard of) a single example of a faked 1960 Classic. To fake a 'Classic' would take the counterfeiter far more effort and considerably more knowledge than would be needed to fake a Standard which would be worth more money into the bargain. This is just a first-impression viewpoint. Further snaps, as mentioned by others, are needed to say more. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMusic Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Thank you all for the great help so far. The more time I spend with them the more they seem geniune. Have posted some more photos as requested (which should have been in the first post!) Any more help on dating them would be fantastic. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Yup. No worries whatsoever as to the authenticity about either instrument. As BK mentioned in post #3 the '1960 Classic' dates from 2003. All it's original features also seem to be present which isn't always the case with this model. The R7 isn't quite so straightforward to date as that serial # could indicate either 1999 or 2009. I can't remember off-hand whether both featured Grovers nor if those instruments from the earlier date were offered with a Bigsby (assuming it's a factory-fitted one). Perhaps if you contacted Gibson Customer Service they could narrow it down for you? Here's where; http://www.gibson.com/Gibson/Talk-2-Us.aspx Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMusic Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Yup. No worries whatsoever as to the authenticity about either instrument. As BK mentioned in post #3 the '1960 Classic' dates from 2003. All it's original features also seem to be present which isn't always the case with this model. The R7 isn't quite so straightforward to date as that serial # could indicate either 1999 or 2009. I can't remember off-hand whether both featured Grovers nor if those instruments from the earlier date were offered with a Bigsby (assuming it's a factory-fitted one). Perhaps if you contacted Gibson Customer Service they could narrow it down for you? Here's where; http://www.gibson.com/Gibson/Talk-2-Us.aspx Pip. Thank you so much for the help Pip that's great advice. Much apprectiated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigKahune Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Yup. No worries whatsoever as to the authenticity about either instrument. ... +1 A coupla really nice LPs. . B) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 yup, real deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 Hi Guys. I too would like to run a Les Paul that I've been offered under your knowing eyes. It's a 2006 Les Paul Standard. From the pics, it appears legit to me and to a Gibson fan whom I have run it by, plus it tallies with the 2006 website pictures. However, I'd just like to double check before landing my third Gibbo. In all honesty, a big part of it is that the deal that I've been offered is so sweet that I feel like it just can't be that easy, if you know what I mean. Here are the pics: Any and all input gratefully accepted. Thanks guys. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 ^^ Looks real from here, no red flags visible. ^^ Could it be that the lens of the camera used needs some cleaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 ^^ Looks real from here, no red flags visible. ^^ Could it be that the lens of the camera used needs some cleaning? Thanks Capmaster. :) Looking forward to trying her out in a couple of days. On the camera, I'd say he's probably using a phone camera, so a bit of pocket dirt mixed in with some typically dicey phone cam resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 6 String Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Hi Guys. I too would like to run a Les Paul that I've been offered under your knowing eyes. It's a 2006 Les Paul Standard. From the pics, it appears legit to me and to a Gibson fan whom I have run it by, plus it tallies with the 2006 website pictures. However, I'd just like to double check before landing my third Gibbo. In all honesty, a big part of it is that the deal that I've been offered is so sweet that I feel like it just can't be that easy, if you know what I mean. Here are the pics: Any and all input gratefully accepted. Thanks guys. :) I agree with Cap, looks 100% legit to me and very pretty one at that. Johnny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 I agree with Cap, looks 100% legit to me and very pretty one at that. Johnny Excellent. Thanks Johnny. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 6 String Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Excellent. Thanks Johnny. :) You're welcome. Let us know if you pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 You're welcome. Let us know if you pick it up. Will do, thanks. The trade is due to go through on Tuesday morning. Looking forward to it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Got it and it's stunning. Really pleased with it. Thanks for the assistance, guys. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 Got it and it's stunning. Really pleased with it. Thanks for the assistance, guys. :) That is a pretty kne. Well done! Love the understated top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hierophant Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 That is a pretty kne. Well done! Love the understated top. Thanks! And yes, I also like the understated nature of its look. Very classic and unfussy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Congrats on your pretty catch. HNGD, and keep on rocking your new baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny 6 String Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Got it and it's stunning. Really pleased with it. Thanks for the assistance, guys. :) She's a beauty alright, glad you were able to pick her up, enjoy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirstopher Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I need some help. I was told this was a traditional ProII, there is no 10db knob adjustment on the tone and the volume knobs don't click as I have watched but they do pull up to adjust the coil splits. I have run the serial thru and it states that its a 2011, but what model. I was thinking a traditional LP, the guitar is heavy, black case with diamond cuts, The finish looks to be Sunburst. It was in very nice shape and it plays very well. I would like to just know what I spent my money on. Time was the deal and I did my homework on the traditional ProII, everything just went too fast. Thanks in advance and happy to be part of the LP team. Chris https://1drv.ms/i/s!Ao142fKvxOWijeRPDIxUh0X_zHrcjw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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