mking Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I've noticed over the years the dot over the I in the block Gibson logo/gold decal is connected to the G. I have also noticed to a lesser extent some of the decals where the dot is not connected. Mostly on J-45s since that is the guitar I usually like to look for. Anyone have info on this. Does the disconnected dot mean anything? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpicker Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 A true case of trying to connect the dots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 A true case of trying to connect the dots! Very clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 One example currently on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/172306891397 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Here's my recent Jackson Browne with the Gibson inlaid. Had an SJ with the same inlay. My 57 J-50 does sport the connection however. Also pictured below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 Here's my recent Jackson Browne with the Gibson inlaid. Had an SJ with the same inlay. My 57 J-50 does sport the connection however. Also pictured below. I don't recall ever seeing the dot connected on the inlayed logo. I wonder if they are out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw1300 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I suspect the reason the dot is connected in the decal is to make the application consistent. Otherwise if it was a separate piece, it would be more difficult from a production standpoint to guarantee it's always directly over the body of the i. It looks weird though, but I would say that kind of adds to the personality of the logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 I suspect the reason the dot is connected in the decal is to make the application consistent. Otherwise if it was a separate piece, it would be more difficult from a production standpoint to guarantee it's always directly over the body of the i. It looks weird though, but I would say that kind of adds to the personality of the logo. I suspect you may be right. The application of the decal almost demands that connection, otherwise the dots would be all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 This hasn't came up for a while, so I had to look. My 61 Melody Maker twin pickup double cut has the dot connected to the G, as does my 1979 SG. The 1933 mandolin does not touch, but it's a totally different font. The Custom Shop ES-339, the J-45 and the '08 Studio don't touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 So... the connected dot can help identify what period the guitar is from? FWIW, my 1965 and 1974 J-50 both have connected dots, but my 2008 J-50 does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mking Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 So... the connected dot can help identify what period the guitar is from? FWIW, my 1965 and 1974 J-50 both have connected dots, but my 2008 J-50 does not. I was told years ago that the dot connected was a sign of an older Gibson guitar. Although I've never seen that point in print. For some reason, a lot of the J-45 reissue guitars being sold out of Japan on eBay have the logo with the dot not connected. A lot of the limited edition guitars. https://www.ebay.com/itm/232058485194 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 That's a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw1300 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 So... the connected dot can help identify what period the guitar is from? FWIW, my 1965 and 1974 J-50 both have connected dots, but my 2008 J-50 does not. Just to clarify - does your 2008 J-50 have the decal or the inlay? My 2001 J-50 has the decal and the dot is connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 There are minor and documented variations among vintage inlaid 'modern' Gibson logos that can be of some use in approximate dating of instruments. To my knowledge, variations in decals haven't gained much, if any, attention in that regard. You can't compare inlays with decals. Currently, dot placement may be a different phenomenon than in the past with respect to decals - don't presume to know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Just to clarify - does your 2008 J-50 have the decal or the inlay? My 2001 J-50 has the decal and the dot is connected. Sure looks like a decal to me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave F Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 What a great rogue's gallery of headstock logos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimt Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Great reference... but we know it does not apply to the new Gibsons at all.. Gibson has kind of put everything on everything to make the guitars sell quicker.. what ever makes them look pretty. But the Davef Pictures sure help in the vintage time frames.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw1300 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Sure looks like a decal to me. :) Very interesting, thanks for posting that. I wonder if all the new ones are like that, will have to look next time I'm at GC or Fuller's. I also wonder if there are pre-Bozeman era Gibsons with the disconnected i decal/block logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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