Victory Pete Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 You're coming across that way yourself Pete. Hate to be the one to break it to you. I've no dog in the fight. I just hate it when forums fall into rows over misunderstandings. Sal is a perfect gentleman However I may appear is fine, but I am not the one going around criticizing and reprimanding others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlejohnny Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 wait, let me have another try ](*,) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 wait, let me have another try ](*,) Another try at posting something useful? Had you before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 All this is beginning to feel like the prelude to the OK Corral😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 All this is beginning to feel like the prelude to the OK Corral😒 Thanks for the useful information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Thanks for the useful information. Glad you found it helpful! ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olie Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 I'm thinking that Pete has no future as a hostage negotiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jannusguy2 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Have you tried putting a lampshade over the the headstock? If that doesn't work, maybe wear it on your head? Might help you lighten the fck up. Just a helpful thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Sal is a perfect gentleman Well, he's perfect...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Have you tried putting a lampshade over the the headstock? If that doesn't work, maybe wear it on your head? Might help you lighten the fck up. Just a helpful thought. Nice to have you back on your game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatbaroque Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Glad you found it helpful! ☺ Don't take your J-200 to town son, leave your J-200 at home Bill Don't take your J-200 to town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Have you tried putting a lampshade over the the headstock? If that doesn't work, maybe wear it on your head? Might help you lighten the fck up. Just a helpful thought. So can you provide some more information about your 2016 Western Classic Mystic Rosewood?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Have you tried putting a lampshade over the the headstock? If that doesn't work, maybe wear it on your head? Might help you lighten the fck up. Just a helpful thought. Adds a new dimension to the notion of 'light headed'😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Adds a new dimension to the notion of 'light headed'😵 Maybe this is where Guitar Light was coming from. Or headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 Wow, what an interesting discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I'm thinking that Pete has no future as a hostage negotiator. Suicide prevention hotline? Poison control center? Dial-A-Prayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkolo Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Decided to sell this to get an SJ-200 http://forum.gibson...._1#entry1816247 What SJ200 are you getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 What SJ200 are you getting? 1938 SJ-200 that was just recently made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse_Dylan Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1938 SJ-200 that was just recently made. If you've been through two (several?) SJ-200s, and not been pleased, do you think this one will meet your criteria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 If you've been through two (several?) SJ-200s, and not been pleased, do you think this one will meet your criteria? Hi, Jesse! Nice to hear from you - been a while - how are you? Meanwhile, maybe the third time's a charm - I went through that many Hummingbirds before finding one I could bond with. Then again, maybe not. Tough call...😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 If you've been through two (several?) SJ-200s, and not been pleased, do you think this one will meet your criteria? I have had one SJ-200 with finish issues, I returned it. I will let you know if the new one has no flaws. It is all up to Gibson's quality control, or lack there of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 Hi, Jesse! Nice to hear from you - been a while - how are you? Meanwhile, maybe the third time's a charm - I went through that many Hummingbirds before finding one I could bond with. Then again, maybe not. Tough call...😒 Yes it seems Gibson's quality control is hit or mess, My 3 Martins on the other hand were (are) absolutely perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Quality control on every one of my Gibsons, bought new and old, has been great. I am not a "cheerleader", and I also have Martins and even a Taylor - where there were more QC issues. For what its worth. But hey... good luck. Maybe your new Gibson will come with a lamp shade and a World Trade Center esque break angle. Rooting for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Yes it seems Gibson's quality control is hit or mess, My 3 Martins on the other hand were (are) absolutely perfect. Historically, the more things change, the more they stay the same esp. with brand-new Gibsons during my lifetime. That's part of what got me started buying 'em used and/or vintage many years ago. I agree about Martin QC. Most are pretty consistent, though there was an interval where D-35s had to be evaluated one-at-a-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 The more things change.... is right. We regularly have rant threads about Gibson QC. They seem to be adventures in anecdotes. They're usually based on one member whose purchased his first Gibson Acoustic after being an electric/Martin/Taylor/Epiphone guy - and receives a guitar that passed through a dealer who apparently missed what the Gibson QC people also missed. Sometimes, the purchaser actually had the guitar in his hands at the store and also missed the alleged defects. I think in half the cases - it's buyer's remorse. Either second thoughts of spending too much $ or not liking the guitar after a week or so. Reminds me of the cliche jokes about the guy who wakes up next to the waitress from the bar and realizes she's missing a couple of teeth. The other half of the cases very well may be QC issues - but many seem to remember the Five Star Dealer is our actual supplier, not Gibson. They are a key part of the Supply Chain. If you receive a guitar with legitimate defects - it is their 'fault'. They accepted the guitar in their Receiving Department QC area, and preferred it for sale. If I were looking for a 100% cosmetically perfect Gibson (because I wasn't going to ding it EVER) - I would simply tell my 5 Star Dealer to inspect it closely and not send a it unless it was 100%. Problem solved. Then, any issues you have would be easier to deal with - and again it would be the Dealer, not Bozeman who needed to address it. Sending an email to Bozeman that "I found an orange peel blemish on my new guitar." is unrealistically silly. It would be like writing GM about a wrinkly in your leather seat, instead of taking it to the dealer to be fixed. Good Luck VP with your Third Attempt at getting a Gibson you are happy with. Based on your comment after you sent back the first one - I assume this is Bozeman's 'one more, last chance'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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