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Do you "talk up" about your Epiphones with your guitar playing aquaintances ?

#1 User is offline   crust 

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Posted 20 November 2016 - 08:57 PM

I have a good selection of several different guitar manufacturers instruments. Note: I like my Epiphone guitars more than any else...surprised ? I'm not ashamed Posted Image,Posted ImagePosted Image and have probably "sold" a few after discussing and jammin' with my guitar playing friendsPosted Image. I pretty much have an "open door"policy at my place when it comes to jammin' with my buds (you ?). Most (not all) believed that Epiphone guitars are "sub par". Man, they changed their tune after playing the ones i have herePosted Image. I've had a few friends offer to purchase the ones they strummed after playing them (I haven't sold any of mine yet) Posted Image, although some of my guitar friends have procured a few, after playing minePosted Image)...They were quite pleasantly surprisedPosted Image.. Anyone have a similar experience ?Posted Image
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Posted 20 November 2016 - 09:58 PM

These days, Epi is doing a pretty decent job. Some need a bit of tweaking to reach their true potential, but that is true for most instruments. I don't see much validity to calling them sub-standard.
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Posted 20 November 2016 - 10:56 PM

My only "carp" (and, it's just MY preference), is that I wish Gibson/Epiphone would issue their various models,
TRUE to the originals (wherever they're made), in every aspect. I.E. 2-hole Truss Rod Covers, with "Gibson"
truss rods. And, on the "Sheraton," the correct "Kalamazoo" style headstock, instead of the "clipped corner"
version, that was used mostly on the "Jazz box" Epi's. I'm OK with the Sheraton having full sized
humbuckers, but it would be nice to have the option, of mini-humbuckers, and stop bar, or frequensator
tailpieces, and a Bigsby option, as well. But, the actual "quality" and fit/finish is the best it's been,
in quite some time! Given they are Poly finishes, rather than "Nitro," as the originals were.

But, again, that's just Me! :rolleyes: [biggrin]

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Posted 20 November 2016 - 11:08 PM

A couple weeks ago I gave a Masterbilt, the couple of years ago Epi version of the Gibson AJ with an undersaddle and also a little mag pup at the end of the fingerboard.

The young lady who ended up with it said she likes it better than her Dad's Takamine big box she'd been sneaking into the basement when home from college.

Dad and Mom thought I overdid the gift, but it went since I'd known the family for around a decade and if this young woman wants to play, she deserves a decent instrument.

Anyway, Mom's comment looking at the all-wood instrument was that the "girl" would have a better guitar than Dad.

Also, I've used a relatively inexpensive PR5e on stage numerous times, including with some Brit music video guys who said it sounded great. I've even used the "super-cheapie" PR4E on stage for kid concerts with excellent results.

Bottom line for me at least with the acoustic Epis, I figure they're as good as the picker. I'd have preferred a shorter scale on the PR5e 'stedda the 25 1/2, but it worked well for me on stage and at home.

I plan giving it to a longtime woman friend who's about the right age to be my kid, and whose children (not little kids any more) took over her family big box guitar.

Why give 'em away if I like them so much? The stroke that messed up my left hand playing also made me think that I likely don't need all the guitars cluttering up the house - and I'm proud to give nice instruments to folks who will use them.

Oh, when I get back playing a bit again, which I do plan for when and if I "retire," I've a couple of ES175 types, neither Gibsons, that are pro quality and "fit" me perfectly.

Would I prefer a Gibson to the instruments mentioned above? Maybe the AJ type simply for the name, perhaps a 175 if the specific instrument "felt right."

But Epi and some others are putting out a heck of an instrument both at the low and low-mid price ranges that's every bit as good IMHO for actual playing as the Gibsons I tried out in the '60s and likely better than in the '70s.

As for any guitar of any type, I don't think it's really worth playing until it has your strings and your setup for your style of play. I will add that some instruments also will be more, or less, sensitive to humidity, temperature and even stage lighting in some instances. Brand, though, doesn't seem to me to be the deciding factor.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 12:16 AM

I've only played two on a amp. My Gibson GT Standard and my Epiphone Standard. I love both and play the Epi. Most. I was very surprised with the quality and tone. But when I do get out the Gold Top it does have so much more tone quality. But that's two Standards. I've heard some very nice Epiphones with higher quality and price that are much better then my GT but then there are also some top notch Gibsons as well. Overall I think for the difference in price, you can't beat a good quality Epiphone. My son bought a custom Epi. But has no amp and I haven't heard it yet other then play it unplugged. I may take my amp over there when their both gone sometime and try it out.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 12:24 AM

I'd add that my own experience reflects more that, given all the amplification even for an AE, playability is my big thing as opposed to "tone" that can be enhanced electronically.

Then again, we pays our money and takes our choices.

But over the years I've never, ever had anyone in an audience suggest my guitar had poor tone when I was using an AE or electric - and that even includes a pair of first generation AE guitars made by Ovation back in the early-mid '70s, one steel string for old-time and bluegrass acoustic and played through an amp in saloon country bands, and a "Country Artist" AE nylon string played pretty much as a classical guitar for other sorts of venues.

And, yeah, I've heard complaints about AE instruments, but frankly, in a live performance and even a rather amateur recording session, I don't think most folks can tell the difference if they're at all listening to "the music."

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 08:37 PM

I constantly mention that my AJ500RC is my favorite guitar among my current 14 or so sitting around...and there's a $4,000 custom 000 in that group.

I had an AJ100 and gifted it to a promising musician...it was my campfire guitar and I have never tried to replace it.

I put WAAAY too much $$$ into my Epiphone Dot and just don't play it...not my style, I guess.

My $100 Epi LP custom solid body electric really rocks my soul with its raspy growl and sweet highs.

Yeah...I tell others about my Epis !

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 01:29 PM

Hi Crust long time no see!

I really think that the stigma that Epiphone created for itself in the 80s and into the 90s continues to be a problem for the brand name.

I would guess that a lot of people have formed those opinions back from that era, and despite the fact that these days, they are putting out a far more consistent instrument by far (better electronics, better hardware, and over all just better fit and finish) people still see that Pitchfork and think, "nope!" but, honestly it's just not so, they've really come a long way.


My latest acquisition was a Sheraton Pro II last November, which is really a very nice axe. I also have a handful of other epis too (Archtops), and enjoy owning and using all of em. are they on par with my USA Gibbies, no, not really, but.. for the money, and what you can get out of em, I say it's hard to hate em.
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Posted 26 November 2016 - 01:09 AM

Guitar shopping Friday and ran across some awful nice ones I could have bought. Just beautiful and I think they were custom except this one used one hanging on the wall.
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Posted 26 November 2016 - 04:27 AM

Only when SG Player's around.

No, actually, my Epi LP speaks for itself. I'm rapidly approaching senility and the early 40s, so I couldn't care less what the headstock says. I'm sure there are Gibby LPs that are superior - I think we can all agree that Gibsons are great. But, with very few guitars have I had a first sit-down and a tinker when I've went "holy sh-t!". That was my Epi LP.

Being almost as old as Yoda, minus the supposed wisdom (then again, you gotta give it to him: no mean feat, getting all the world's nerds into one place every two years), I've played lots and lots of guitars. This is my fave LP tone so far.

Or rather, it was. Ultimately, the action was too high, even after I last posted about adjusting it. Still not 100% back in the Tone Zone. "Dear Diary", right?
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Posted 26 November 2016 - 05:51 AM

No I dont talk up any guitars, or haven't done yet anyway.

What I can say is that I have 7 guitars that I gig. Some are cheap and some are not, but the price has nothing to do with how much I like them.

An my favourite one is one of the cheapest.
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Posted 26 November 2016 - 07:08 AM

IMO Epiphones various are on a roll at the moment and for the foreseeable future... [thumbup]

One reason is the quality of modern piezo pickups and EQ installations...

Epi acoustics look good and are well built and finished....and affordable..

99% of the young players I see doing 'open mics' play Epi's

I compared an Epi jumbo acoustic with my low end Takamine and came to the conclusion it was near enough the same guitar

And almost certainly came from the same factory.... :blink:

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 01:25 PM

View Postcrust, on 20 November 2016 - 08:57 PM, said:

I have a good selection of several different guitar manufacturers instruments. Note: I like my Epiphone guitars more than any else...surprised ? I'm not ashamed Posted Image,Posted ImagePosted Image and have probably "sold" a few after discussing and jammin' with my guitar playing friendsPosted Image. I pretty much have an "open door"policy at my place when it comes to jammin' with my buds (you ?). Most (not all) believed that Epiphone guitars are "sub par". Man, they changed their tune after playing the ones i have herePosted Image. I've had a few friends offer to purchase the ones they strummed after playing them (I haven't sold any of mine yet) Posted Image, although some of my guitar friends have procured a few, after playing minePosted Image)...They were quite pleasantly surprisedPosted Image.. Anyone have a similar experience ?Posted Image

I'm a Gibson lover who went rogue in buy a used Epi LP Custom Pro (with ProBucker) out of sheer curiosity and after making an offer I didn't expect to be accepted. That was a few months ago and I've been playing that guitar almost exclusively enjoying every minute. I recently picked up a used Epi LP Stnd for my son and i have noticed that he's been taking it to practices, and small gigs leaving his American stuff home. He says it plays and sounds every bit as nice as his Studio and Traditional. To be fair, the Epi was modded with 57 Classics. Since less attention to detail should be expected at Epi price point, I've noticed that strap button and truss rod cover screws can sometime be drilled a bit wonky....that's been my only gripe.

So yes, I've been chatting up Epi. I now want a Sheraton II...lefty. Rare.




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Posted 12 December 2016 - 10:55 PM

I've always figured an Epi with strings and setup appropriate for the picker would overall do a better gig job than a Gibson with inappropriate strings and setup for the picker and picker's style.

For what it's worth, too, some guitars are more sensitive, IMHO, to climate and weather, and regardless of brand, may need more frequent adjustment.

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 09:15 PM

I think the all-solid wood guitars are more sensitive to environmental changes. When we start all-solid wood is the "holy grail" dream...but we don't realize most recording artists leave the good stuff in carefully climate controlled "studios" and touring stage work is done with more durable pieces.

...as for whether or not "...ABC brand guitars are more problematic than ZYX guitars..." that is something to which I haven't given much thought...other than to say I also have quite a few Washburn guitars, too, and both brands would be neck-and-neck regarding durability...one brand seems to have been more ruggedly built with more attention to appearance, but that was a negative when I needed a campfire guitar...too "nice" to risk.

The most used of my guitars are my solid-top/lam sides & back axes...but I find myself using extra care with those pieces to avoid dinging the soundboard.

At times I grow tired of the upkeep the all-solid wood pieces require.

Bottom line...at times an all lam guitar is what one needs, particularly if it's juiced. Record with the good stuff in the studio, though. The rest will fall into place...all in good time.

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 05:22 PM

I don't talk them up or down! Most of my "normal" (non-musician) friends don't know the difference,
or care, and the 2 Epi's I own ('66 Casino, and AIUSA Sheraton), are totally on par, with any of my other
guitars. So, I've never felt the "need" to explain them, unless I'm asked about them. [biggrin]

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 09:07 PM

I think CB has a great point.

I've never, ever, had someone in the audience tell me my guitar sound was horrid, no matter what I was playing.

I've had comments on the music, what and how I played it... but never, ever, on the tonal quality of the guitar -and there's no reason to ask about playability.

It's just us, and that's why I say that with decent enough quality to last through the gigs we're likely to do, and decent amplification, the guitar choice itself to me is a matter of playability and, on occasions, appropriate appearance for a venue. E.g., I'd not play a cherry Dot for a cowboy poetry gathering... But I have used a 175... <grin> and a friend who's a real rancher uses an antique 125.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 02:24 PM

I own both Gibsons and Epiphones, and gig both. Up until about a year ago the Epi guitars I had (also had a boltneck Thunderbird bass) were hollow or at least chambered (Casino and WildKat, respectively). Had an uncharacteristically busy year totally by chance in 2016--got 3 Epi Les Pauls (all used): a Les Paul Junior (not the ubiquitous boltneck version), a Les Paul Special (again, a setneck), and a Les Paul Deluxe.

A guitar is what it is. I can enjoy and play a $300 guitar, or a $1,000 guitar, equally. Most of my friends are of a similar mind to me, so I don't really need to talk up Epiphones. Had a sparse year gigging due to health problems last year, so I've managed to gig only the Les Paul Junior of the 3 new Epi additions. Looking forward to giving the Special and the Deluxe their baptisms of fire. [thumbup]

Here is my Epi stable. The bottom 3 are the newbies.

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Posted 19 January 2017 - 08:44 PM

Current Epi's aren't bad. I have a lot of fun with my EJ-200 Artist, especially in the summer when I'd rather not drag an expensive guitar outdoors or pack one along in the car. It sounds good and plays well. Stays in tune. My only dislike is the width of the nut, which I'd prefer to be a little wider for the sake of comfort. The notion that it's totally laminate doesn't bother me - in fact, I chose it to be durable.
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