Revolution Six Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Hi, I need new tuners, what' s your favorite tuning machine heads? What do you think about Kluson Revolution? ThX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Jerry Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I need new tuners, what' s your favorite tuning machine heads? What do you think about Kluson Revolution? I put a set of the Kluson Revolution locking tuners with Pearloid Keystone Buttons on my Epiphone Riveiera Custom P93 guitar. I don't have much to compare them to, but they were a huge upgrade to the stock tuners on that guitar and I like them better than the locking Grover Keystone tuners that are on my 2014 Gibson Les Paul Standard. On the margin, the Kluson Revolution tuners help me fine tune the guitar better and do their part in the equation to keep the guitar in tune, which is helpful since the guitar has a Bigsby tremolo. The pearloid buttons also give the guitar a classy vintage look to it. If you decide to go with the Kluson Revolutions, you may be able to find a set on everybody's favorite auction site at a big discount to what they typically go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american cheez Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 locking sperzels, or grovers. klusen's suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 locking sperzels, or grovers. klusen's suck The only tuners causing problems here on 30+ instruments with machine heads of various origins are three sets of locking Grovers stock on Gibsons. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Never had Klusons, but I will need some replacements next year, so I'm interested in informed opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Klusons work good. The ones you posted will be excellent I am sure. My Grovers (not locking ones) work good too. You just have to keep the screw through the button tight. Sperzels, Gotoh work fine. Very good tuning machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 locking sperzels, or grovers. klusen's suck... I have regular Historic-style pearl-button single ring Klusons on four LPs and have never once had any problems with a single one of the tuning keys. I also had the regular, original, Klusons on my '64 Strat (bought '80; sold 2004) and never had problems with those either. I have (non-locking) Grovers on my Epi Hummingbird which are fine but the (similar) Grovers fitted to my (ex-)Epi LP Standard, OTOH, could slip if the guitar was being given a hard time. What horror-stories and/or disappointment issues have you experienced with Klusons, kuma? Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 locking sperzels, or grovers. klusen's suck Ok ...Easy. Explain kuma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1all's Pub Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Klusons do not suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjsinla Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I've never had any problems with my Klusons or other stock Gibson tuners, either. One exception was my 6 on a strip 79 Explorer and I later heard that run had problems with those tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 locking sperzels, or grovers. klusen's suck I too, would like to know the logic, behind this statement?! Never had any trouble with Kluson tuners, ever! But, he did say "Klusen's", so maybe those are "Knock offs?" The newer (shown) Kluson tuners look nice! Might have to try some? CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalpiper Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Added the non locking revolutions and they are, handsdown, the best tuners ever!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glp2012 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 locking sperzels, or grovers. klusen's suck Silly rabbit, Kluson's are for Fenders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Added the non locking revolutions and they are, handsdown, the best tuners ever!!! Please Norcalpiper, can you post a picture of your Gibson' s headstock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted December 11, 2016 Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 I found pictures, those new tuners look fine IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american cheez Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 i don't like plastic, and i think they (klusens) feel cheap. the tuners i've mentioned in my earlier post all felt more precise, smoother than the klusens i've had. for less money than klusens you can buy nice locking tuners that don't have plastic knobs as if they were a child's toy guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 i don't like plastic, and i think they (klusens) feel cheap. the tuners i've mentioned in my earlier post all felt more precise, smoother than the klusens i've had. for less money than klusens you can buy nice locking tuners that don't have plastic knobs as if they were a child's toy guitar. OK. So you don't like plastic buttons. You prefer metal buttons. Is that it? Absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the quality of the tuners? P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 i don't like plastic, and i think they (klusens) feel cheap. the tuners i've mentioned in my earlier post all felt more precise, smoother than the klusens i've had. for less money than klusens you can buy nice locking tuners that don't have plastic knobs as if they were a child's toy guitar. Have a look here, they are abailable with metal knobs, chrome, nickel, gold and black My link = http://www.kluson.com/revolution.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1all's Pub Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 What are "klusens"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalpiper Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Nice. The letter-form and overall vaguely Art Deco air gives them a surprisingly 'vintage' look. Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 Thank you norcalpiper ! How is the weight ? I think I will order a set for my SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaicho8888 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 The new K appears to be more durable...19:1 ratio nice. I've been lucky, I've got some over 50 year old Kluson Deluxe and the plastic tuners have not deteriorated. The only problem is that I always accidentally knock the headstock on something. This results in bent posts...mostly the G and D tuners. I'm sure, my old original Klusons will still work and out live me. I'm OK stock with tuners...my ears do not hear any change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie brown Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Thank you norcalpiper ! How is the weight ? I think I will order a set for my SG Do they offer that version, in "Gold?" IF so, I may have a couple of guitars they'd look Great on?! CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Six Posted December 15, 2016 Author Share Posted December 15, 2016 Yes, gold, chrome, nickel, black, metal knobs and perloid knobs, vintage brushing and bolt brushing... Kluson Revolution Machine Heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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