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Pickguard vibrating against dog ear P-90 covers on my 330. Should I bother fixing it?

#1 User is offline   Blazorge 

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Posted 11 December 2016 - 07:39 PM

Yep, I have a Custom Shop ES-330L and the pickguard has always been mounted so that it's set tight up against the dog ear P-90 covers in at least a couple of places. Sometimes this buzzes quite a lot and I was wondering if there is any practical benefit to me taking some light sandpaper to it and fixing it so that it doesn't buzz anymore or if I should just leave it alone.

I have a feeling that I should probably just leave it the hell alone which is exactly what I've done for years. The idea of fixing it or not came up for me again today and just this time, I thought I'd ask you fine folks what you all might think before I decide to just forget about it again.

Thanks for your ideas.
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#2 User is offline   L5Larry 

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Posted 12 December 2016 - 07:08 AM

I would doubt that the vibration can be heard when plugged in and amplified, and as the 330 is an "electric" guitar, it's really just an "annoyance" when playing it acoustically. That said,.... yes, this would annoy me, and I would want to eliminate that annoyance.

It may be as simple as pivoting the pickguard away from the pickups by adjusting the mounting bracket. I'll assume the guitar is equipped with the two piece block and round bar bracket. Loosen the clinch nut on the inside of the mounting block, and tighten the acorn nut on the outside of the mounting block. This will pivot the back edge of the pickguard downward.

If it looks like this procedure is the answer but you don't have enough adjustment on the acorn nut, remove the acorn nut and carefully screw the round shaft further into the mounting block on the underside of the pickguard. Repeat the clinch nut/acorn nut tightening steps.

If your guitar is fitted with the bent flat-bar bracket, it is slotted underneath. Loosen the mounting screw which goes through the pickguard and bracket, rotate the pickguard into the new position and re-tighten screw.

If the "adjustment" does not solve your issue, then remove the pickguard and carefully file pickguard notches to your satisfaction. I use files designed for use on metal for working on plastic, a wide flat file for the straight areas, and a medium round file for the corners.

Hope this helps, let us know how it all works out.
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Posted 15 December 2016 - 02:33 PM

A small piece of 'female' velcro cut to size and stuck in the right place always works for me.
Speaking from experience.
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#4 User is offline   Ian s 

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 04:34 PM

A small felt "washer" can help. If it's cotton it won't harm plastic parts, or the finish. Even if you leave it jammed in place for years...
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Posted 18 December 2016 - 02:30 AM

View PostIan s, on 17 December 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

A small felt "washer" can help.

Yes, I've used stick-on felt a number of times for various applications on or near pickguards. The ones I purchased were black, and came in a variety-pack of sizes. A small one in a strategic location on the underside of the pickguard should do the trick. They also are very thin, and should not noticeably lift the guard (for example, if placed to rest on the P-90's body mount screw head).

Btw, I also have an ES-330L, in Beale St Blue. Great guitars!
> Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100 Xtra
'02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '06 ES 335 / '09 ES 339
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Posted 18 December 2016 - 11:57 PM

My experience is that I put a nice electric archtop away for roughly 25 years because of a similar problem that was a big problem. I'm not certain exactly why, but the "kiss" even affected the instrument played electric.

The felt washer thing made a piece of crap hidden in its case for a quarter of a century into a favored instrument.

It's the guitar in my avatar.

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#7 User is offline   Del 

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:01 PM

Strangely enough, just a day or so after reading this thread, my 335 developed a very slight rattle but only with certain notes being played. It wasn't a loud rattle or even one that could be heard through the amp but it was enough to be annoying when playing quietly at home.

After a lot of mucking around trying to trace where it was coming from, it turned out to be from the pick guard. None of the hardware attached to the guard was loose so, rather than trying to file any edges down in case it was rubbing against the pickup rings, I removed the guard and cured the problem instantly!

The guard is now in the pocket of the guitar case and won't be going back on. I think I actually prefer the look of the guitar front without the guard as the lower f hole is now fully visible so it looks nicely balanced.
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