Rabs Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 What makes it Ultra? :) This is the older modern weight relief And the new one from this page http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/Gibson-2017-New-Model-Preview.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibson Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I wonder if that Tommy Thayer epiphone les Paul has any,that bugger is the heaviest guitar in my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I have an Agile AL2900 which has weight relief. Doesn't seem to make any diffeence to the tone....sounds really good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 A few of the chambers are slightly enlarged - mainly those on the lower bass-bout - and the rout to the p'up selector might be slightly wider. That's about all I can spot. I wonder why they bothered to change it for what appears to be such a (seemingly) insignificant difference........... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanHenry Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 There are two extra small hole's one above the bridge pickup area and one below the neck pickup. I can't see them making much difference to the weight. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 There are two extra small hole's one above the bridge pickup area and one below the neck pickup. I can't see them making much difference to the weight... On the "Modern Weight Relief" body top-right? The ones for the pickups' adjustment screws? There are also holes & routs for the stop-bar, p'ups & earthing wires. I could be wrong but I think Rabs is talking about the differences between that body and the blank in the big snap (under the pic with three blanks) - which isn't finished to the same degree as the three in the top pic - hence the omissions noted above. On another minor point; which MWR'd LPs have a long neck-tenon (as seen in the snap above)? P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Do you pay more for the ones with less wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Do you pay more for the ones with less wood No; you pay more for the ones with the most wood because they are the Re-Issues and are made with solid, lighter, more expensive to source body blanks...... All kidding aside they might be more expensive because more wood removed = more work / another stage in the manufacturing process = more time spent making the guitar = more money spent making the guitar = more expensive guitar. Possibly... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Scales Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Interesting. The chambered one looks like a candidate for 3D printing in future years - would save a lot of material waste - or they could use the routed wood chip to make cheaper models with 3DP I suppose. I do like the idea of taking out all that excess weight though (personally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 A few of the chambers are slightly enlarged - mainly those on the lower bass-bout - and the rout to the p'up selector might be slightly wider. That's about all I can spot. I wonder why they bothered to change it for what appears to be such a (seemingly) insignificant difference........... Pip. It would be interesting to see two head on shots. I'm not convinced I can see any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Anyone else notice that acoustic volume is louder with weight relief? I ask in case it’s just coincidental on my guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 It would be interesting to see two head on shots. I'm not convinced I can see any difference. I've had a bit of a play. Have a look at the areas with the red dots and also the relative positions of the red lines against the 'V' of the lower strap-pin wood. I also think I notice a thinning of the 'spokes' but, of course, without seeing and handling the real thing - which is not going to happen - all bets are off!... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Anyone else notice that acoustic volume is louder with weight relief? I ask in case it's just coincidental on my guitars. My 'Swiss-Cheesed' are not louder than my solid-bodied. In actual fact the R0 projects the most unplugged. It has 'more tone', as Farns would say(*). Chambered are possibly a different story but as I don't have one I can't offer a definite, informed personal opinion on that score. Pip. * Actually not only would he NOT say it; he would thump me if I said it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Never cared what was in there. Or not in there, whichever. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Never cared what was in there. Or not in there, whichever. rct Not even when there was a 'Burg-Jerky' in one of the Swiss-cheese nests? Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The Les Paul Custom Studio from the S Series has an ABR bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub-T-123 Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not even when there was a 'Burg-Jerky' in one of the Swiss-cheese nests? Pip. Lol that was classic!! The only differences I see are the neck tenon, and the little routes for the pickups and stopbar studs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The only differences I see are the neck tenon, and the little routes for the pickups and stopbar studs... Well, the routs are merely yet to be machined on the newer blank but it was the long tenon that I thought to be odd - which is why I raised the question about which Modern Weight-Relieved LPs had a long neck-tenon earlier-on (post#6). AFAIK only the R-I's (and possibly the Traditionals - but I really can't remember) have a long tenon but none of these feature MWR. Very strange... Pip. EDIT : Gibson's own phrase to describe the U-MWR is; "Ultra Modern Weight Relief is Gibson USA's new technique for a lighter guitar with enhanced resonance and sustain..." A "new technique"? So perhaps it's just a new machine-tool with/or a slightly different cutting program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 How are you supposed to know which weight relief you have unless you take an x-ray. Can anyone tell me what weight relief version I have on my 2007 Classic Antique guitar of the week #2? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Farnsbarns Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 I've had a bit of a play. Have a look at the areas with the red dots and also the relative positions of the red lines against the 'V' of the lower strap-pin wood. I also think I notice a thinning of the 'spokes' but, of course, without seeing and handling the real thing - which is not going to happen - all bets are off!... Pip. I think you're right. Dub also has a point. That is a short tennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 ...weight relief...Can anyone tell?... No. Oh, hold-on; Possibly Clark Kent. ...Dub also has a point. That is a short tenon. Agreed, Farns. But it's not the short tenon that is notable; it's the LONG tenon which seems (to me) out of place. Hence my query in post #6... Can anyone remember a recent USA-line LP with a long tenon? Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPguitarman Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 No. Oh, hold-on; Possibly Clark Kent. [lol] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Can anyone remember a recent USA-line LP with a long tenon? The length of tenon has never been germane to me, so no. I don't know one tenon from the next, my entire life of guitars. rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 The length of tenon has never been germane to me... The length of tenon has never been germane to me either. I'm merely incorrigibly curious about, and fascinated by, minutiae. As evidence I summon post #12 to bear witness. I ask you; is that the product of a "sound mind"? I rest my case. And, rct, it's a NICE case.... Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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