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J-45 Vintage comes with compensated saddle?

#1 User is offline   Pete'67 

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 10:59 AM

Purchased my J-45 Vintage 2016 new from an official Gibson dealer.
I was of the opinion the Vintage line does not come with compensated saddle (H is compensated on mine) but straight bone saddle.
Just curious.

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#2 User is offline   kidblast 

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:17 AM

Specs on the Web site mention the J45 Vintage bridge as simply "bone" but the photos do in fact reveal an uncompensated bridge.

check it out J45 Vintage
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:20 AM

 kidblast, on 25 January 2017 - 11:17 AM, said:

Specs on the Web site mention the J45 Vintage bridge as simply "bone" but the photos do in fact reveal an uncompensated bridge.

check it out J45 Vintage



Saddle kidblast , saddle 😄😄
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 11:35 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 25 January 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Saddle kidblast , saddle 😄😄



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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:16 PM

FYI, my 2007 J-45TV did not come with a compensated saddle. Just a regular bone saddle. However, my 2015 L-00 Red spruce Limited did come with a compensated saddle.

Gibson's "vintage" models always have an item or two that wasn't on the vintage guitar it is supposed to be replicating, i.e. reverse belly bridge rather than the rectangle bridge and the 19 fret neck rather than the 20 fret neck they come with. It's all a mystery!!
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:24 PM

View Postmking, on 25 January 2017 - 12:16 PM, said:

FYI, my 2007 J-45TV did not come with a compensated saddle. Just a regular bone saddle. However, my 2015 L-00 Red spruce Limited did come with a compensated saddle.

Gibson's "vintage" models always have an item or two that wasn't on the vintage guitar it is supposed to be replicating, i.e. reverse belly bridge rather than the rectangle bridge and the 19 fret neck rather than the 20 fret neck they come with. It's all a mystery!!

How do you like the nice "black" case that it comes with,also?
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:29 PM

View Postolie, on 25 January 2017 - 12:24 PM, said:

How do you like the nice "black" case that it comes with,also?


This new J-45 Vintage comes with a black case? My TV came with the Brown/pink case. I don't use it because I have a Calton case. I would think that with what these new guitars cost, and labeled "vintage", they would have the period correct brown case.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:31 PM

View PostPete, on 25 January 2017 - 10:59 AM, said:

Purchased my J-45 Vintage 2016 new from an official Gibson dealer.
I was of the opinion the Vintage line does not come with compensated saddle (H is compensated on mine) but straight bone saddle.
Just curious.

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#9 User is offline   olie 

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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:34 PM

View Postmking, on 25 January 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

This new J-45 Vintage comes with a black case? My TV came with the Brown/pink case. I don't use it because I have a Calton case. I would think that with what these new guitars cost, and labeled "vintage", they would have the period correct brown case.

Hey, mking, I was just looking at the site that bbgrunt put up and had to chuckle at their photo of a brown case that they described as black. Glad you got the brown one BTW.I guess they cut back on proofreaders over at Gibson.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:50 PM

View Postolie, on 25 January 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Hey, mking, I was just looking at the site that bbgrunt put up and had to chuckle at their photo of a brown case that they described as black. Glad you got the brown one BTW.I guess they cut back on proofreaders over at Gibson.


Ollie, too too funny. Yeah, I got the Calton so when I fly the brown case won't get messed up, and neither will the guitar. The brown case is heavy as is the Calton.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:52 PM

Mine came with an uncompensated saddle, and a brown/pink case.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 12:56 PM

View Postolie, on 25 January 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

Hey, mking, I was just looking at the site that bbgrunt put up and had to chuckle at their photo of a brown case that they described as black. Glad you got the brown one BTW.I guess they cut back on proofreaders over at Gibson.



Ollie,
I like at the beginning of the description they state "The 2017 J-45 Vintage, this model stays true to the original in every way."

That is a bad picture of a "brown" case. The pink inside pretty much indicates the outside is brown.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 01:02 PM

mking- mine came with a bone saddle that is not compensated and with the brown case.
"The empty vessel makes the loudest sound." w.s.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 02:10 PM

So Gfa and Hall got their guitars with the bone saddle and brown case. That means that guy was off work the day Pete'67's guitar came down the line and the stand in guy threw a compensated saddle in it!! ��
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 07:05 PM

my 2016 j45 vintage has uncompensated saddle and brown case- however, the toasted top does not equal the vintage in my '46 southern jumbo.
The burst in the above photo looks a bit brighter than mine as well.
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Posted 26 January 2017 - 07:41 AM

The other thing I notice is that the bridge has countersunk pin holes. Not used to seeing that on a Gibson.
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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:06 AM

Is that saddle on your 45 bone? Sure looks like CNC-cut Tusq..........but maybe not.

My Hummingbird Vintage came with what is obviously a hand-shaped bone saddle, compensated and oddly radius-ed. But it works very well........ And the pins holes are not countersunk. And a corner of the pick guard lifting.......I just push it back down every now and then as it is not an issue for me.

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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:17 AM

I bought 4 Gibson acoustics recently and replaced all of the saddles with unbleached uncompensated saddles. They are supposed to be denser than the bleached white variety. I like uncompensated because I think the compensation doesn't really add much, if anything, to the intonation. I think a saddle should remain as thick as possible for best string contact and sound transmission. It is important though to have a nice rounded top for a good take off point. Not enough and the string gets choked.
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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:36 AM

 Victory Pete, on 26 January 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

I bought 4 Gibson acoustics recently and replaced all of the saddles with unbleached uncompensated saddles. They are supposed to be denser than the bleached white variety. I like uncompensated because I think the compensation doesn't really add much, if anything, to the intonation. I think a saddle should remain as thick as possible for best string contact and sound transmission. It is important though to have a nice rounded top for a good take off point. Not enough and the string gets choked.


This interests me as I'd like to carve a saddle myself for the sake of saying i did so , but was worried about the compensated part ... I'm no soloist so I've wondered how much I care about a slight deviation at the twelfth fret
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Posted 26 January 2017 - 08:45 AM

Pete,
Congrats on the great looking guitar but ditch that machine cut saddle. I've never cared for the look of those machine cut saddles like that. You can re shape that yourself to take away the hard edges. Looks like it belongs on a Taylor.
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