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Gibson ES345 1972 Broken neck or finish crack?

#1 User is offline   Ryan Otter 

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 08:04 PM

Hi everyone,

Need an opinion from those,who had experience in this...

So there is Gibson ES345 1972,that seller offers to me for a good price.
I was able to get it to home for a test and discovered few strange things.

The tone itself is good. But by feel,the wood of the body and neck isn’t resonating,like it does on my Tele or Mustang (friend gave me his ES335 ’66 and it resonate how it supposed to,for example) + when I play this guitar,it feels like my hands are in plasticine or like guitar is overall “wet” (like it just came from tropic contries) - it doesnt affect the tone from speakers tho!
By the legend it hasn’t been played for decades (It was sold by collect in US to another non-playing collector ,where it spend next 4-5 years in the case) Could it be because of it hasn’t been played for a long time?

Second thing is that it have some kind of crack lookalike in the place of neck joint .I attached pictures. What I am trying to understand - if it was cracked and glued back together or it is just a finish cracks. It has “2” second on headstock,maybe its because of this cosmetic issue?...

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Posted 28 January 2017 - 10:38 PM

It had better be cheap, because that neck is going to have to be removed, the crappy glue job cleaned up, and the job done right.
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#3 User is offline   Ryan Otter 

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Posted 29 January 2017 - 09:10 AM

View Postksdaddy, on 28 January 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

It had better be cheap, because that neck is going to have to be removed, the crappy glue job cleaned up, and the job done right.


Is it even possible? To detach the neck and glue back together "properly"? Could it affect the resonation/tone?
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 10:45 PM

Looks like the neck was removed and poorly reset in the body. It was not properly fitted together before gluing.

As mentioned, it can be steamed/reheated and fitted correctly.
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#5 User is offline   L5Larry 

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 11:36 PM

No, this neck was not broken, or removed. This is simply the affects of neglect and poor storage, and the "fix-it" of a complete ******* idiot (even a 1/16" of wood glue provides no structural support).

The OP does not mention the selling price, which is of ultimate importance in ANY discussion of this nature. Is the guitar selling for $500, or $2000? Somewhere in between would probably be fair, on the low side of $1000. Guitars of this type and era were produced in the thousands. The figures for 345's in '72 were about 400. This was the heyday of Norlin era Gibson production. Add that number to the 335/355 production totals and you have a quantity of about 4000 instruments.

In 1973 Gibson guitar production seemed to have peaked for the era. With almost 800 345's built, and about 6000 ES-3XX's shipped.

It's not a big deal to pull this neck and re-glue it. It's not even a "reset" as so many people like to say around here. In fact, if the idiot hadn't squirted all that Elmer's Glue in there, it might have righted itself under proper environmental conditions.

Unless this guitar is selling in the $500-750, run away.
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