Hawkesman Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Got a '94 Signature Clapton Blackie strat sat on the bench at the moment, and the TR needs a tweak. Trouble is, I can't see any way to adjust it, from either end. No hex, allen or phillips visible anywhere. Any ideas? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdgm Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Pix? Illogical, does not compute.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkesman Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Agreed! I'll take some shots, but I've just noticed there's a hole in the back of the neck plate, and under this is an allen bolt you can use to adjust the angle of the neck relative to the body. Weird. I don't normally work on Fenders, and I'm beginning to see why! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L5Larry Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 On the traditional "vintage" fender necks, the adjusting nut is on the bottom end of the neck. It may not visible in the neck pocket, and is usually inaccessible without removing the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkesman Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Pics ... There's nothing in the headstock hole except wood, and the diameter is tiny. Am I being a total dunce here?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There's nothing in the headstock hole except wood, and the diameter is tiny. Looks exactly like that of my American Deluxe Telecaster. It has a 1/8" hex nut and a Bi-Flex truss rod, that is the nut uses the walnut ring in the hole as support for bending the neck forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkesman Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Hi cap. Thanks, but I promise you that there is no hex nut in the hole. I've put two pairs of reading glasses on together (!), and shone my brightest torch into it, and all there is in there is a wood plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Hi cap. Thanks, but I promise you that there is no hex nut in the hole. I've put two pairs of reading glasses on together (!), and shone my brightest torch into it, and all there is in there is a wood plug. To be honest, this seems... strange... :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkesman Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Indeed it does! I'm wondering if the hex bolt at the neck plate is the key? I thought it was just a neck-angle adjuster as it obviously threads into the serrated disc seen on the neck-cavity side of the body, and this aligns perfectly with the flat disc seen on the underside of the body-end of the neck. However this isn't a disc though - underneath it's a solid cylinder which goes deep into the neck and sits astride the TR. I thought that this was just an anchor for the TR, but perhaps it's more than that. So... maybe all of this gubbins is the adjuster? Engineering-wise it just doesn't seem right, as the stresses involved in indirectly applying force to the TR in this way seem way to big. Anyhow, once all the other work is done and the guitar is back together I'll experiment a little and let you know what happens. Fenders, eh? Nice MIA guitar though. Quality is good throughout. Better than some of the Gibsons I've owned (much gnashing of teeth!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1489885543[/url]' post='1842659'] Nice MIA guitar though. Quality is good throughout. Better than some of the Gibsons I've owned (much gnashing of teeth!). "That's It,"..........'SPOT, Sick Him!' Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffster Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 My 2005 Stratocaster neck looks the same, the nut is indeed in the headstock side, it is really hard to see because of the walnut plug but it is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capmaster Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Indeed it does! I'm wondering if the hex bolt at the neck plate is the key? I thought it was just a neck-angle adjuster as it obviously threads into the serrated disc seen on the neck-cavity side of the body, and this aligns perfectly with the flat disc seen on the underside of the body-end of the neck. However this isn't a disc though - underneath it's a solid cylinder which goes deep into the neck and sits astride the TR. I thought that this was just an anchor for the TR, but perhaps it's more than that. So... maybe all of this gubbins is the adjuster? Engineering-wise it just doesn't seem right, as the stresses involved in indirectly applying force to the TR in this way seem way to big. Anyhow, once all the other work is done and the guitar is back together I'll experiment a little and let you know what happens. Fenders, eh? Nice MIA guitar though. Quality is good throughout. Better than some of the Gibsons I've owned (much gnashing of teeth!). My only MIA and lots of my MIM Fenders feature a Micro Tilt adjustment of same make, and it is just that. All it affects is the neck angle. I think it takes a 3/32" allen key. Anyway, other than the MIA, the MIM Fenders have a "normal" single-action truss-rod and a 3/16" hex nut for truss-rod adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfpup Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Yes, the truss rod is to be adjusted through that little hole. And be careful with the micro-tilt at the neck pocket. It can really throw a monkey wrench into your set up. I hate those things because it complicates setups. Normally you just have to set the truss rod with a tiny bit of relief and then adjust the height of the bridge saddles, but the micro tilt complicates matters by tweaking the "tit" of the neck in the pocket. However, if you get it just right the set up will play like butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkesman Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Guys, You were, of course, quite right! I decided to assume that you were (because you usually are), and carefully inserted a small drill bit into the hole and twirled it a bit by hand. A load of wood-coloured crap came out of what proved to be the hex hole, and after much huffin' and puffin' I eventually saw the beginnings of a hex shape. What was in it, I shall never know. It looked like wood shavings, but it's a mystery to me! However, as usual, problem solved thanks to the Forum! Cheers muchly, H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 This thread had me going...glad it turned out not to be some freak guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merciful-evans Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Guys, You were, of course, quite right! I decided to assume that you were (because you usually are), and carefully inserted a small drill bit into the hole and twirled it a bit by hand. A load of wood-coloured crap came out of what proved to be the hex hole, and after much huffin' and puffin' I eventually saw the beginnings of a hex shape. What was in it, I shall never know. It looked like wood shavings, but it's a mystery to me! However, as usual, problem solved thanks to the Forum! Cheers muchly, H. Thats a relief ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 my bro inlaws Mex Presicion bass had the same problem, the hex bolt was jammed with "something"... had to dig it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 ...A load of wood-coloured crap came out of what proved to be the hex hole...What was in it, I shall never know... my bro inlaws Mex Presicion bass had the same problem, the hex bolt was jammed with "something"... had to dig it all out... Ear-wax? Thats a relief ;) Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Ear-wax? Pip. Danny swears it was crushed peanuts, the luthier that found this agreed. how the f--- do peanuts get in there by accident... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rct Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Danny swears it was crushed peanuts, the luthier that found this agreed. how the f--- do peanuts get in there by accident... Prior to February of 2013 I would have asked the same thing. Visit the factory, you'll know how! rct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Danny swears it was crushed peanuts, the luthier that found this agreed. how the f--- do peanuts get in there by accident... What makes you think they got in there by accident? You know that guy who works in Fender's Custom Shop and wears a Gibson T-shirt?........ Pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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