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#1 User is online   Rabs 

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:32 AM

Kind of sounds like marketing BS to me? anyone tried them yet?

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:40 AM

It could be all marketing, and I've not tried those particular strings yet, but I've been using Ernie Ball Super Slinky strings since around 1984 and in that time, I've only broken two strings (both on stage, of course). I use the Dunlop Tortex pick 1.14MM (purple) and at times, I hit the strings pretty hard and at a bit of an angle with the pick. I use those because I either wear down or break plastic picks, or used to. I haven't really had a problem with string breakage using Ernie Ball strings. With my guitars and the way I play, Ernie Ball has held up the best out of them all and I tried just about every brand that was available in the early to mid-80's until I found a set of strings that hold up to my playing. I'm not necessarily saying that they're the best and that they don't break but in my experience on my guitars and the way I play, they hold up playing metal, thrash, hard rock, blues, classic rock, etc. Then again, I use a product called Finger Ease regularly and clean the strings after playing for a few hours. YMMV.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:48 AM

The singer in my band - who breaks a string on every gig usually - is being sent some to try out.

Will let you know. They're very expensive to buy.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:49 AM

Yeah me too..

I hardly ever break strings.. I also use Super Slinkys and have done most of my playing life...

The only new thing that has come along which I am starting to lean towards are the Hybrid Slinkys.. They are (I think) 10s on the bass strings and 9s on the high strings.. This (I think) gives you the best of both worlds.. You have the thinner strings for solos and the slightly thicker bass strings for chords.. They are cool.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:52 AM

View Postjdgm, on 04 May 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

The singer in my band - who breaks a string on every gig usually - is being sent some to try out.

Will let you know. They're very expensive to buy.

Yeah. I think its £18 a set.. But I guess IF they do last longer it may be worth it?
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:58 AM

I thought about trying the Hybrids but if it ain't broke, why fix it?

I put a set of EB Regular Slinky 10's on my Les Paul last night to try it and went back to the 9's after just a few minutes. I liked them but it just wasn't what I was used to. If it's true and they don't break, perhaps your singer would do well with them. What does he/she use now? Do you know?
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:05 PM

View PostMichaelT, on 04 May 2017 - 11:58 AM, said:

........perhaps your singer would do well with them. What does he/she use now? Do you know?


D'Addarios or EBs mostly I think. They always break at the bridge saddle.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:07 PM

View Postjdgm, on 04 May 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

D'Addarios or EBs mostly I think. They always break at the bridge saddle.

Which would probably imply that the saddle slots may need to be smoothed out a bit?
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:09 PM

View PostRabs, on 04 May 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

Which would probably imply that the saddle slots may need to be smoothed out a bit?

On every guitar he uses onstage - he only does it onstage.... [laugh]

He has ordered some replacement saddles for his Ibanez J Scofield, think they will be tusq or whatever graph-tech is these days.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:10 PM

View PostRabs, on 04 May 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

Which would probably imply that the saddle slots may need to be smoothed out a bit?


That was going to be my guess too and I've seen that a lot. Is there any particular string that's breaking more than another? What kind of guitar/bridge/tailpiece? What's the bridge/tailpiece angle?
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:15 PM

View PostMichaelT, on 04 May 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

That was going to be my guess too and I've seen that a lot. Is there any particular string that's breaking more than another? What kind of guitar/bridge/tailpiece? What's the bridge/tailpiece angle?


It's mostly him as he does it on a Tele, an Ibanez Scofield and an acoustic. Doesn't matter which. SNAP! Usually a wound one.
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Posted 04 May 2017 - 12:17 PM

View Postjdgm, on 04 May 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:

It's mostly him as he does it on a Tele, an Ibanez Scofield and an acoustic. Doesn't matter which. SNAP! Usually a wound one.


It sounds like he's really getting into it while he plays. That's cool. He's just hitting the crap out of the strings, it sounds like. I get it and have done the same as well. I'd be interested to know how this works out for him.
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Posted 05 May 2017 - 11:37 AM

I use EB Regular Slinks. Iíve tried their Cobalt strings too. I always return to the Regulars though.


I may well give these Paradigms a go too. They need to last at least twice as long to be worth it. Changing strings these days is more difficult with arthritic thumbs, so it might be worth it. It seems that the coatings used may play a major part to propping up this claim.

Elixir Polywebs are supposed to last a long time too. I have some on my LP right now (I had forgotten about them) and yes they are lasting beautifully so far.
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Posted 05 May 2017 - 05:07 PM

I used EB Super Slinky for a long time back in the day. Rarely broke any, but they went dead pretty fast. Used to buy them by the case to save a little. Then I bought a Taylor acoustic that had Elixir strings that really lasted a long time and sounded excellent. So when I saw that Elixir started making strings for electric guitars I switched to them and haven't looked back. The Elixir like these new EBs cost a little more, but last about 3 times longer so I think it's a bargain.

I recall now thinking back on it in the early 70s I sometimes used Extra Super Slinky which I think was .008 on the high E. The package contained 8 strings, an extra high E and an extra B cause it was just a given that you break them [smile]

But my experience with coated strings has been great so these new EB probably aren't marketing hype, it does make a difference.
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Posted 06 May 2017 - 12:01 AM

A guy in one of the bands I play in gave me a set of these last week. I haven't put them on yet, so I can't make a comment.
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Posted 06 May 2017 - 01:37 PM

One of my many theories is that all electric guitar strings are exactly the same.
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Posted 07 May 2017 - 07:04 AM

 Pinch, on 06 May 2017 - 01:37 PM, said:

One of my many theories is that all electric guitar strings are exactly the same.


Ernie Ball Cobalt and Msteele certainly not the same, try a set of either of these and you will see.

I have been trying D'Addario NYXL Balanced Tension, a bit different too but I am not sold on em yet
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Posted 07 May 2017 - 08:41 PM

View Postkidblast, on 07 May 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

Ernie Ball Cobalt and Msteele certainly not the same, try a set of either of these and you will see.

I have been trying D'Addario NYXL Balanced Tension, a bit different too but I am not sold on em yet

What do you think of the NYXLs? I have them on two guitars and I think they are decent but maybe not worth the price difference between them and my Super Slinkys.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 09:10 AM

View PostMegafrog, on 07 May 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

What do you think of the NYXLs? I have them on two guitars and I think they are decent but maybe not worth the price difference between them and my Super Slinkys.


I don't think they are much different than the standard XLs, at least I've not really noticed except the tension on the B and E strings do have a different feel. I'm, trying the balanced tension ones in this case

The only strings so far that made me right off, notice a big difference was the EB Cobalts and M-Steels. Those jumped right out at me. Louder, improved touch response, longer lasting, and stabilize really fast. The only down side on the cobalts is they take a few days to break in, when you put them on, at first the feel kind of funky. But tone wise, there just seems to be "more" there.

The M-Steels feel more like what we are used to with nickle. I still prefer the cobalts once they break in.
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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:42 AM

Well I got some & decided to conduct a test. Itís going to take quite a time though.

I am comparing regular EB Slinkies (10-46) with EB Paradigm Slinkies (10-46).
I fitted both sets of string this morning as follows:

EB Slink : Deuce
EB Paradigm Slink : Elite

Iíve already put in 90 minutes playing on the Elite, I will log the hours I spend playing on both. The intention is to play them for equal periods in order to assess the pricey Paradigms.

The guitars are similar in most respects. Iíll try to find this thread when I have anything to report


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