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#21 User is offline   sbpark 

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 02:47 PM

View Postfortyearspickn, on 08 May 2017 - 01:11 PM, said:

My pristine black car hood got a dozen paint chips from an idiot gravel truck driver that didn't close his back flap scoop all the way. Marble sized gravel at 70 mph does wonders. Also put a dent in my windshield. I cleaned each one real well so the paint would adhere. There were no dents, just gray spots the size of the dot over the "i" on the Gibson logo on our headstocks. I used a toothpick to put a small drop in each one and waited to see if it would slowly sink and level out to fill in the pockmark. If it didn't, I wiped it clean with paint thinner and tried again. A few days later, I went over them with the meguiers Scratch x to polish out and blend in any imperfections. Be sure your paint is thin and fluid so it will seep into the scratch. As was suggested, a small needle or pin might be the best "brush". I agree, that scratch would drive me to distraction. A black line, if done right will be less noticeable. Since the paint color and gloss won't be an identical match, the trick is to only use it to fill in the scratch. It might be possible to fill it in slightly over filled, and wipe off the excess only with a naphtha damp rag. G'Luck!


How did you "dent" your windshield?! I'll never own a black car. Way too much work to care for a black finish and if you don't keep up on it, it will start looking like crap pretty darn fast after you drive off the lot.

Scratch X is awesome for polishing guitars to get rid of light swirls, small surface scratches, etc. I've used it on Gibson Nitro finishes and it's great.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 03:42 PM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 08 May 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

. . . but it's so odd , and I honestly don't know how it got there.


Mr Woodford probably knows what happened.


Have you considered these lacquer pens?

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The above is only a screen capture. Scroll down on the link below; Stew Mac has brown and black as well. Maybe try a hobby shop first to get around Stew Mac's notoriou$ mark up.

http://www.stewmac.c...-up_Marker.html

The narrow width of the scratch gives you a good chance of making it much less noticeable. Lacquer's strong suit is it's workability. You could follow up the touch up with Virtuoso Cleaner, then V. Polish.

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 06:42 PM

View Post62burst, on 08 May 2017 - 03:42 PM, said:

Have you considered these lacquer pens?

Whouu, , , that amber tint asks me to dance. .
You just can't keep coincidences down. .
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:04 PM

I've used the pens - they get my vote.
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 09:37 PM

View PostOldCowboy, on 08 May 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

I've used the pens - they get my vote.

The Stew-Mac pens have a big fat tip, and when you press down to release the paint, it can come flying out in a blob.

I've used them by dripping it into a plastic cup & then applying with a fine point brush or micro sponge.
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'02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '06 ES 335 / '09 ES 339
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 09:39 PM

View PostE-minor7, on 08 May 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

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Whouu, , , that amber tint asks me to dance. .

I have some, and it's pretty yellow.

Put it on white paper first to get a feel for the color.
>Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100 Xtra
'02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '06 ES 335 / '09 ES 339
'10 ES 330L / '11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special
'12 J-185 / '13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15
>Epis: '66 FT45n Cortez / '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton
'05 McCartney-Elitist 1964 Texan / '09 Elitist Casino / '13 EL-00 Pro
>Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '14 A-150b
>Martins: '01 Custom Rosewood Dread / '09 OM-1 / >Ibanez: '81 M-340
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Posted 08 May 2017 - 10:09 PM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 08 May 2017 - 06:41 AM, said:

Have an annoying scratch on my j45
Will this stuff make the guitar explode or anything

BBG, the answer is yes, it will make your guitar explode!

Or more to the point, it will probably end up causing your area of concern to explode into a truly ugly mess - and you will have created it, so it will drive you even crazier than what you have now.

That is a finish scratch. The nitro touch up will sit there in a blob, or series of blobs (no matter how miniscule), and you'll have one heck of a time smoothing it out & making it look like anything besides a hack job. You'll also most likely end up with visible alterations to some of your surrounding finish by trying to blend this area in (because black shows everything). If this were a dent or chip, it would be a totally different story.

Bottom line: Take it to someone who is experienced in working with nitro finishes !!!

If you simply must attack it yourself, the only thing I'd recommend would be to use some Virtuoso Cleaner (light to moderate pressure) on a fine microfiber cloth to buff down & remove some of the scarred finish within the scratch, and follow up with a bit of Virtuoso or Gibson polish to keep any of the cleaner from settling in..... sometimes it works & sometimes it doesn't.

But please, just back slowly away from that black nitro!
>Gibsons: '22 "A" Mandolin / '66 ES 125T / '90 Tennessean / '00 J-100 Xtra
'02 J-45 Rosewood / '02 SG Faded-moon / '06 ES 335 / '09 ES 339
'10 ES 330L / '11 ES 335-P90s / '12 ES 330 VOS / '12 LP Special
'12 J-185 / '13 LG2-AE / '13 Midtown Kalamazoo / '14 J-15
>Epis: '66 FT45n Cortez / '00 AIUSA-John Lee Hooker 1964 Sheraton
'05 McCartney-Elitist 1964 Texan / '09 Elitist Casino / '13 EL-00 Pro
>Guilds: '73 F-30R / '74 F-40 / '76 G-37 / '92 D-6 / '94 JF-30 / '14 A-150b
>Martins: '01 Custom Rosewood Dread / '09 OM-1 / >Ibanez: '81 M-340
>Breedlove: '10 American Series OO Mandolin
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Posted 09 May 2017 - 01:05 AM

Ah you guys !
Here's me hoping for some encouragement, all I'm getting is don't do it

Not gonna dive in , never was ... and I'm not paying a man money for the sake of a scratch.

Although if I bought all the stuff suggested by everyone I'd probably be better off giving to someone.

I hear toothpaste is good for scratches 🤔
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Posted 09 May 2017 - 02:37 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 09 May 2017 - 01:05 AM, said:

I hear toothpaste is good for scratches 🤔


Yes, I funnily enough mentioned this for my girlfriend the other day - she has a scratch on her mirror.


But it's gotta be mint.



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Posted 09 May 2017 - 02:45 AM

 E-minor7, on 09 May 2017 - 02:37 AM, said:

Yes, I funnily enough mentioned this for my girlfriend the other day - she has a scratch on her mirror.


But it's gotta be mint.


Absoluelty!

Think I'll keep the toothpaste in the bathroom

Still undecided about the scratch.
All I know is it won't polish out. Too deep
Not sure about the pens advice as to me would be just the same as using a tiny brush and , what should be , the correct material to fix it ....

Lars and his water based paint with the ability to wipe off excess is making the most sense at this time
A gentle wipe should leave the scratch filled up



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Posted 09 May 2017 - 03:24 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 09 May 2017 - 02:45 AM, said:

Lars and his water based paint with the ability to wipe off excess is making the most sense at this time
A gentle wipe should leave the scratch filled up


Hmmm, , , yes, I mentioned the water-based too and called aquarel.
The times I used that was direct on deeper (top)wood scars, which were able to soak it up. But try your ways.









Say it again : go pen

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Posted 09 May 2017 - 03:32 AM

I have some concerns about the weight of the paint will add to the guitar and possibly suck some tone and volume out of it




All the suggestions are very much appreciated
What a great place this is
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Posted 09 May 2017 - 05:53 AM

View Postblindboygrunt, on 09 May 2017 - 03:32 AM, said:

I have some concerns about the weight of the paint will add to the guitar and possibly suck some tone and volume out of it




Bomb-thrower!

It will just re-establish the guitar's equilibrium, which has been upset by the scratch...
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Posted 09 May 2017 - 06:02 AM

View Postsbpark, on 08 May 2017 - 02:47 PM, said:

How did you "dent" your windshield?! I'll never own a black car. Way too much work to care for a black finish and if you don't keep up on it, it will start looking like crap pretty darn fast after you drive off the lot.

Scratch X is awesome for polishing guitars to get rid of light swirls, small surface scratches, etc. I've used it on Gibson Nitro finishes and it's great.




Agree. I didn't realize how very sensitive a black car finish was until talking to a body repair guy. I would probably go full postal OCD if I hung out at a forum discussing black car finishes. "Can't use hard water to wash them." "Don't go within 100 miles of the shore or the salt air will turn it gray." But the 'dent' - turned out to be a crack. When the small rock hit it - it sounded like a shot.

BBG - Plan B: If you can't get the scratch out - get a nice bumper sticker. "This Machine Kills Fascists!" is timeless!
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Posted 09 May 2017 - 07:09 PM

Try this:http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Trade_Secrets/Mamie_Minch_Melting_scratches_off_a_vintage_guitar_finish.html
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Posted 09 May 2017 - 07:37 PM

View Postaliasphobias, on 09 May 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

Try this:


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Posted 09 May 2017 - 11:19 PM

😩


Mamies a bit cute isn't she
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 03:13 PM

 j45nick, on 09 May 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

Turned this into an active link:

scratch repair


Thank you Nick.
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Posted 10 May 2017 - 03:14 PM

 blindboygrunt, on 09 May 2017 - 11:19 PM, said:

😩


Mamies a bit cute isn't she


I have fallen for women who made my scratch disappear.
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Posted 11 May 2017 - 08:27 AM

View Postaliasphobias, on 10 May 2017 - 03:14 PM, said:

I have fallen for women who made my scratch disappear.


Ironically, tragically, while they may scratch your itch, you sometimes get a rash.
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