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#1 User is offline   Sunfist 

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:02 AM

What are the major differences between the ES335 and the Sheraton. The Sheraton costs quite a bit more but the specs and hardware look pretty similar.
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Posted 24 May 2017 - 08:33 PM

Assuming you mean the Sheradon II Pro vs the ES 335 Pro, the biggest differences are the pickups and the trim. The binding is different (look at the F holes), fretboard inlays are different, headstock inlays are different, etc. If you don't care about the cosmetics, then listen to the two so that you are comfortable with the differences in pickups. Remember also that pickups can be changed - I found my Dot to be a fantastic guitar to play with lifeless pickups, so I changed to SD Jazz and JB and now love both the sound and the playability.
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Posted 25 May 2017 - 05:06 AM

I have had a Sheraton PRO II for a few years now, I have been really happy with it.

The pro bucker pickups in the Sheraton are definitely an upgrade. No need to consider swapping them IMO Compares nicely to my USA mad Gibby pickups.

the rest, as Jeff says, is mostly cosmetics.

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Posted 25 May 2017 - 06:00 AM

Major Differences..."Bling!" A Sheraton Pro, is the "top of the Epiphone thinline semi-hollow body line.
(The Sheraton Pro is to an Epiphone ES-335 Pro, what a Gibson ES 355 is to a Gibson 335! Same "basic" guitar,
with more cosmetic appointments.) And, of course, the much larger, clipped corner, headstock design, on the
Sheraton, vs the Standard, and smaller "sloped Dove wing" headstock, on the 335 Pro. All the "Pro" series have
improved pickups, if slightly different, between models, over the standard fare. The Sheraton Pro, seems
slightly heavier (to me), in weight, than the the ES-335 Pro, because of the extra appointments, and larger
headstock. The necks are different, as well. The ES-335 Pro, has a solid Mahogany neck. The Sheraton, has
a 5 piece Maple/Walnut laminated neck.

And, the ES-335 Pro, is "out of production!" Still seems to be some overstock, left/available, but
according to Epiphone, it's no longer being made. To bad, too...as it's a nice guitar!


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:05 PM

View PostJeff Summers, on 24 May 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

Assuming you mean the Sheradon II Pro vs the ES 335 Pro, the biggest differences are the pickups and the trim. The binding is different (look at the F holes), fretboard inlays are different, headstock inlays are different, etc. If you don't care about the cosmetics, then listen to the two so that you are comfortable with the differences in pickups. Remember also that pickups can be changed - I found my Dot to be a fantastic guitar to play with lifeless pickups, so I changed to SD Jazz and JB and now love both the sound and the playability.


I did the same pickups but went a bit further. I swapped out to wiring from Jonesyblues.com with oil-filled caps, and coil splitting pots.
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Posted 24 June 2017 - 11:19 AM

View PostSunfist, on 19 May 2017 - 04:02 AM, said:

What are the major differences between the ES335 and the Sheraton. The Sheraton costs quite a bit more but the specs and hardware look pretty similar.

I'm not sure about the current Sheraton (Pros), but my non-pro Sheraton II was made in Korea. That's generally a plus in my book. Sheraton's are, of course, prettier, as well. :P
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Posted 02 July 2017 - 05:03 PM

The Sheraton also has a nearly all-maple construction in contrast to the 335, and features a laminated neck rather than the traditional Epi style scarfed mahogany of the 335.
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Posted 03 July 2017 - 02:42 PM

I haven't got a Sheraton but I have always fancied one.

There is one very major difference other posters haven't pointed out. A Sheraton was and remains an Epiphone guitar and never has been a "copy" of a Gibson.

For me that gives the Sheraton a genuine Epiphone lineage and "authenticity".
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Posted 04 July 2017 - 11:52 AM

View PostPin, on 03 July 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

I haven't got a Sheraton but I have always fancied one.

There is one very major difference other posters haven't pointed out. A Sheraton was and remains an Epiphone guitar and never has been a "copy" of a Gibson.

For me that gives the Sheraton a genuine Epiphone lineage and "authenticity".



Well, yes and no...the Casino was just Epi's version of the ES-330, the Riviera was equivalent,
to the ES-335, and the Sheraton was the Epi equivalent, to the ES-355. They were made at the
same plant, in Kalamazoo, right along side one another, with equal quality, and care. The only
major differences being, the headstock shapes (and the inlays and ornamentation) and in the case
of the Riviera, and Sheraton, mini-humbuckers were used, instead of the full sized humbuckers.
On the Sheraton, from '58 to '61 (approx.) single coil "New York" pickups were used, initially.
The change to Gibson "Mini-humbuckers" started in late '61 or early '62. The bodies were Gibson
designed after their ES-335. Full sized humbuckers weren't standard on Sheraton's, or Riviera's,
until production was moved to Asia, in 1970. There, the Sheraton headstock gained it's "clipped"
corners, that had been previously used, mostly, on the Epi "Jazz box" arch tops.

So, in that sense, they were Genuine Epiphone models, but still based on Gibson's designs.


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Posted 05 July 2017 - 10:51 AM

I take your point about the equivalences Charlie but they are very different guitars and especially so in regard to the Sheraton and the original ES355. Sure enough much of the differences are cosmetic (although marked) but that is true of many guitars and variants.
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Posted 05 July 2017 - 01:33 PM

View PostPin, on 05 July 2017 - 10:51 AM, said:

I take your point about the equivalences Charlie but they are very different guitars and especially so in regard to the Sheraton and the original ES355. Sure enough much of the differences are cosmetic (although marked) but that is true of many guitars and variants.


Well, I just think it's important, to realize the differences were mostly cosmetic, and/or use of mini-humbuckers, vs Full sized, on
the Gibson models. They were designed by the same folks, but the "tree of life" inlay, on the Sheraton, and the fingerboard inlays
were directly taken from the old Jazz box Epi's, made prior to Gibson's purchase of Epiphone. So. yes, they are their own models,
from that standpoint, but were based on Gibson ES models, of the time. No big deal, really. It's doesn't have to lessen Epiphone's
models, or devaluate them, in any way. Gibson, has done a good job, of doing that, when they sent them to Asia, instead of continuing
the line, here! But, it was a "business" decision, and at least allowed the Epiphone brand, to survive. And, I think they've really done a
good job, on getting the quality back up, in recent years. My only real "carp," now, is the little details, that they seem to ignore
that would make them truly authentic re-creations, of the original Kalamazoo models. I don't have a problem, really, with "where"
they're made, just wish they were truly accurate, in all production models. But, that's just Me! [tongue] [biggrin]


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Posted 09 July 2017 - 08:32 AM

I really Love my ES 335.
The Sheraton is a Beautiful guitar
a bit too regal for my taste
however, I have no trouble getting along with the appointments on the Les Paul 100th Ann. guitar.
The Sheraton
A Stand Out Performer
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Epiphone LE ES 335-Pro IT
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Posted 09 July 2017 - 02:42 PM

The Sheraton is to me everything a semi should be, a bit more upscale than a Gibson 335, more like a 345 with bound "F" holes, and (to me) nicer FB inlays and pick guard without the varitone.

The rub is they can be had SO CHEAP used! I don't get it.
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Posted 09 July 2017 - 05:48 PM

Get the Sheraton, it is a much better guitar.
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Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:19 AM

The Epiphone ES335 Pro guitars are still available from AMS (American Music Supply) and Musician's Friend

https://www.american...ET3P-EBNH3-LIST

http://www.musicians...electric-guitar

I prefer the ES335 over the Sheraton because the ES335 has nickel hardware which I believe ages better than the Sheraton's gold hardware. Also the Sheraton doesn't have fret markers past the 15th fret; that's a strange omission IMHO and (for me) makes playing on the upper frets more difficult. The Alnico Classic Pro humbuckers sound fine to me and there's a coil split option which some people might like. The ES335 is also more affordable.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:39 PM

i recently purchased one of these es335 pro's in ice tea burst. Every time I grab this guitar I am impressed with it.. I absolutely love the neck and cannot believe the pickups sound as good as they do.


View PostVictek, on 10 July 2017 - 07:19 AM, said:

The Epiphone ES335 Pro guitars are still available from AMS (American Music Supply) and Musician's Friend

https://www.american...ET3P-EBNH3-LIST

http://www.musicians...electric-guitar

I prefer the ES335 over the Sheraton because the ES335 has nickel hardware which I believe ages better than the Sheraton's gold hardware. Also the Sheraton doesn't have fret markers past the 15th fret; that's a strange omission IMHO and (for me) makes playing on the upper frets more difficult. The Alnico Classic Pro humbuckers sound fine to me and there's a coil split option which some people might like. The ES335 is also more affordable.

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