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#1 User is offline   charlie brown 

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 08:59 AM

Confused! Is the BB King "Lucille," which is still listed on the Gibson "Memphis" category page, still IN production?
Because, on the "Out of Production" section, it's listed, as well! Or, does Gibson just do that, on each year's production,
to make way for the current year's (same) model, to allow for price increases? The "spec's" are the same, but the selling
price is significantly Higher!! Right at 7 Grand, now! [scared]

???!! [unsure]

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:26 AM

I've just checked :o

Holy Moly. Better buy one now before the 2018's arrive!



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:03 AM

View Postmerciful-evans, on 11 June 2017 - 09:26 AM, said:

I've just checked :o

Holy Moly. Better buy one now before the 2018's arrive!



Why did Gibson never issue a 'Miss Gibson' guitar? Its what the Rev Gary Davis called his Gibson J200.


I have one, already, that I got in 2002, for $300-400 LESS, than a ES-335, at that time! I got it, because
at that time, Gibson was not issuing any of the standard ES-355's. And "Lucille" was the only option,
for awhile. My dealer sold it (brand new) to me, for $1,600 and change. And, it has the Ebony finger
board, as well. I was so surprised, by the price, that I made them tell me, a couple of times, that I
was, in fact, not "dreaming" it. LOL They said (at that time) the BB King model was of limited demand,
and the ES-335's sold at 10/1 over "Lucille!" Which is probably still true?! But, for that price, it was a real
"no brainer" for me, even though, aside from "Les Paul's," I (generally) stay away from endorsement
gear. But, there was, and still is, no buyer's remorse, with "Lucille!" It's a awesome "axe!" [thumbup] [wub] [biggrin]

I was just curious, when I was checking the "Out of Production" category, as to "Why" Lucille was on there,
when it's still listed, for 2016-2017?!!

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:25 AM

View Postcharlie brown, on 11 June 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Confused! Is the BB King "Lucille," which is still listed on the Gibson "Memphis" category page, still IN production?
Because, on the "Out of Production" section, it's listed, as well! Or, does Gibson just do that, on each year's production,
to make way for the current year's (same) model, to allow for price increases? The "spec's" are the same, but the selling
price is significantly Higher!! Right at 7 Grand, now! [scared]

???!! [unsure]

CB


those have been in and out of production for 25 years so far... only issue is there costing more everytime a person waits for the next reissue of the reissues.... BTW.. any one spending 7000.00 grand on one of these.. just has to much money floating around.. 1993 about 2500.00 bought a new one.. 7000 back then got you a L5 ces
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:34 AM

My 2016 ebony Lucille, ARLC16EBGH1, cost me 2,499 after c.500 reduction.

Looks like I got a good buy?
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:09 AM

View Postslimt, on 11 June 2017 - 10:25 AM, said:

those have been in and out of production for 25 years so far... only issue is there costing more everytime a person waits for the next reissue of the reissues.... BTW.. any one spending 7000.00 grand on one of these.. just has to much money floating around.. 1993 about 2500.00 bought a new one.. 7000 back then got you a L5 ces



Yeah, I guess "I" just don't remember a time when "Lucille" was NOT in production, since it's release. Who knows? [tongue] [biggrin]

As to the price...yeah, I tend to feel that way about a LOT of Gibson's, these days! [crying]
Maybe Epiphone will continue to be the more reasonable choice, for "the working musician," anymore???
Seems like Gibson is catering to the Collector/investor, Rock Stars, and Millionaires, more than the
average working musician. [tongue] [unsure] But, I guess if one wants a "Real Gibson," one will
just save for it, price be damned...or, so they figure? :unsure:

So, I'm very thankful to have the Gibson's I have, and to have purchased them, when I did!! [biggrin]
I only have about 3 guitars I'd (still) Love to have...a ES-345 Historic, a Guild (acoustic) 512 12-string,
and a Martin OOO or OM 28! But, at my station in life, those are (more likely) a "pipe dream!"

But, I can't complain, and I'm totally OK with=Grateful for, what I have!

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:04 PM

The king of the ES family, that's for sure.
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Seven grand is idiotic but perhaps that explains why their 2017 Memphis line up now consists of 4 Limited Runs.

For those of you who haven't played one, these have a totally different feel than the 335s.
I like them both but don't think that a Lucille is just a dolled up 335 without F holes. It feels more like a very large solid body guitar.
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Posted 12 June 2017 - 02:07 PM

I'm just happy that I got mine17 years ago! Anybody know what "ARLC" means with reference to Lucille model?

$7k sounds like a lot of bucks!


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Posted 12 June 2017 - 08:09 PM

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The king of the ES family, that's for sure.
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No, Steve, Lucille would be the "Queen" of the ES family.

This it the King:

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 01:56 PM

Here I thought the Super 400 was king! But I think I would prefer a L-5 anyway. As for the prices on the ES-guitars I bought my 2009 ES-345 new for $2300.00 and I am thrilled with the guitar, especially at that price.
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 03:33 PM

Interesting, too...that "Lucille," at 7 Grand, only comes in "Black!" For 7 Grand, you should be able to
get it in (at least) Red, as well...don't you think?! [flapper] [biggrin]


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

View Postcharlie brown, on 14 June 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

Interesting, too...that "Lucille," at 7 Grand, only comes in "Black!" For 7 Grand, you should be able to
get it in (at least) Red, as well...don't you think?! [flapper] [biggrin]


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For an additional $1500 they might find some red paint - but B.B.s Lucille was black so I suppose that is the true color.
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 02:06 PM

View PostTwang Gang, on 15 June 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

For an additional $1500 they might find some red paint - but B.B.s Lucille was black so I suppose that is the true color.


I know, but at some point, in it's run, Gibson included a "Cherry Red" option. And, at far less a selling
price, than now. [scared] [tongue] [biggrin] But, I'm sure you're right, they're just selling BB's favorite color.
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:01 AM

Interesting CB, I just realized the price change. I almost did the same as you and bought one a few years ago in NY while they were well priced. Red too. You might have beat me to it. [thumbup]
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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:39 AM

View PostGolden, on 17 June 2017 - 07:01 AM, said:

Interesting CB, I just realized the price change. I almost did the same as you and bought one a few years ago in NY while they were well priced. Red too. You might have beat me to it. [thumbup]


Yeah, I didn't know about the "Red" option, at the time I got mine (Black), but I have NO regrets, at all! [thumbup] [biggrin]


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:34 AM

Looks like you have to spend 9 grand to get ebony.
http://www.gibson.co...aul-Ultima.aspx

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:53 PM

Got a red used mint one in '09. It was 2.5k. Glad I got mine when I did. Ain't paying 8k for a guitar. 2.5k was ridiculous enough.
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 03:18 PM

Checking the prices here I found 4.3k for the Ebony and 4.8k for the Cherry models, both in stock:

https://www.thomann....ing_lucille.htm

https://www.thomann....ille_cherry.htm
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:33 AM

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Looks like you have to spend 9 grand to get ebony.
http://www.gibson.co...aul-Ultima.aspx

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That's what I thought I wanted so bad. I listened to them being played by the experts on the Net. Loved that sound. Then when Deb gave me the Ok to get one I took a new model down and played it for awhile on a amp, I just never felt bonded to it. For the high price they were asking for it I didn't think it was worth it Steve. It wasn't Ebony fret board, stuff was loose all over it for a new guitar and I couldn't get the varitone switch to work right. That's why I fell in love with the a Gretsch I took down and a ton cheaper. Hope that's ok to post here?
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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:06 AM

View PostRetired, on 21 June 2017 - 12:33 AM, said:

That's what I thought I wanted so bad. I listened to them being played by the experts on the Net. Loved that sound. Then when Deb gave me the Ok to get one I took a new model down and played it for awhile on a amp, I just never felt bonded to it. For the high price they were asking for it I didn't think it was worth it Steve. It wasn't Ebony fret board, stuff was loose all over it for a new guitar and I couldn't get the varitone switch to work right. That's why I fell in love with the a Gretsch I took down and a ton cheaper. Hope that's ok to post here?


Can't, and won't speak for Steve...but, there's a LOT of Gretsch lovers here, me included. Lucille is an awesome guitar,
though not for everyone. And, even less so, I suspect, at $7000! One can get 2 White Falcons, for that! [tongue] But,
they both have their own distinct voicing, and both are quite versatile, IMHO. So, whatever floats your boat!! [biggrin]



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