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New Epiphone SL Models Lespaul/Melodymaker shape

#1 User is offline   iluvcrap2000 

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 02:49 AM

So Was browsing Sweetwater and saw these, what's your take on them?

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLHSCH

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLEBCH

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLPACH

For $119, affordable, but worth it?
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#2 User is offline   JAF 

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:12 AM

View Postiluvcrap2000, on 13 June 2017 - 02:49 AM, said:

So Was browsing Sweetwater and saw these, what's your take on them?

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLHSCH

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLEBCH

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLPACH

For $119, affordable, but worth it?


The price is very good. It would have been interesting to hear what it sounds like.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 12:00 PM

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Basically a 2 pickup short-scale Strat, which makes it the worst of both worlds.
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#4 User is offline   iluvcrap2000 

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 01:51 PM

View PostParabar, on 13 June 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Basically a 2 pickup short-scale Strat, which makes it the worst of both worlds.


Rather have them reissue the double cut thin body melody maker rather than these defeciant models. I'm puzzled by Gibsons Decision to create this line, they should have learned something by the low cost flop of their gibson bottom barrel guitar line they wanted to try the epi branch and see how that goes? Is it competition for Squier(As they issued more cheaper models as well this quarter). [scared] [confused] [confused] Making and getting more guitars out there isn't the answer. Improve the quality, features and brand worth is more important. This is just cheapening it more.

of side note, Epi hasn't upgraded the LP Ultra III since it came out in 2014.
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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:23 PM

View Postiluvcrap2000, on 13 June 2017 - 02:49 AM, said:

So Was browsing Sweetwater and saw these, what's your take on them?

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLHSCH

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLEBCH

https://www.sweetwat...detail/ENOLPACH

For $119, affordable, but worth it?


My strings cost $119.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 03:46 AM

Are your strings $119 each or do you get the full set?
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 09:37 AM

They look like junk to me. Fender style single coils, short scale, wrapover tailpiece/bridge. I'd play one to verify just how bad they are. My guitar strap cost me almost as much as that guitar. You get what you pay for. This is basically a Squier Bullet with a LP-ish shape.
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Posted 16 June 2017 - 09:50 PM

These look like single coil versions of the Gibson M2. Gibson is definitely trying new things this year with their brands.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:35 AM

Are these bolt on or set necks? No specs in sweetwater page.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:46 AM

View PostKojer, on 18 June 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Are these bolt on or set necks? No specs in sweetwater page.


Bolt on. Set necks cost more to produce as it takes more time to let the glue in the neck set properly. Bolt on's are way easier and cheaper to produce as it takes less time to install and be ready for next step in production line.
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Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:59 PM

Well there is nothing wrong with cheap guitars just as long as they're done right.
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Posted 19 June 2017 - 07:05 PM

View PostKojer, on 18 June 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

Well there is nothing wrong with cheap guitars just as long as they're done right.


well these arn't done right, they look atrocious. This is like the lame prize you don't want. [thumbdn]
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 12:00 PM

View Postiluvcrap2000, on 19 June 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

well these arn't done right, they look atrocious. This is like the lame prize you don't want. [thumbdn]

Seems they would be right up your alley; with a name like iluvcrap2000. [flapper]
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Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:19 PM

View PostKojer, on 18 June 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

Well there is nothing wrong with cheap guitars just as long as they're done right.


I can pretty much guarantee you that these are not done right.
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Posted 22 June 2017 - 01:46 PM

I think I saw one at the county fair last weekend at the dart throwing game. I think it was a consolation prize.
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Posted 24 June 2017 - 03:32 PM

Just... no.
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Posted 25 June 2017 - 01:23 AM

It's a beginners guitar. Nothing wrong with that, you have to start somewhere.
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:22 AM

View PostRookery, on 25 June 2017 - 01:23 AM, said:

It's a beginners guitar. Nothing wrong with that, you have to start somewhere.

Just not here. a little up the line. This is what you buy your newbie teenager that wants to be a rock star and they get bored with it the first month and it sits in the garage for 5 years till pops puts it up in the garage sale for $50. pfft.
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 05:44 PM

Pure junk. As others have said, a short scale Strat missing a pickup. I'd rather have an old Epi S-210/S-310

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#20 User is offline   Pinch 

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 09:28 AM

Iluvcrap: that's my perspective too. Most people who start out on a POS guitar lose interest quickly, at least in my experience. My suggestion to anybody who's ever asked me has always been that they should spend in the vicinity of 500 bucks (e.g., an Epi LP Plustop Pro over here in tax-happy Sweden, or a hundred bucks shy of a MIM Strat), or not bother.

And I'm no elitist. At all. It's just been my experience that, ESPECIALLY when you're starting out, you need a decent guitar. The last thing you need as a novice is a wreck that can't even hold its tuning.

I realize not everyone can afford a decent guitar, though - even if they prioritize. But if you can cut back on whatever, then it's money well spent.
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