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Posted 21 July 2017 - 04:42 PM

View PostDub-T-123, on 21 July 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

Did the guy say it was a refinish or is it just an obvious hack job? The reason I ask is that the finishes from that period do not hold up to time/the elements well and many people would look at an original finish and think it looks awful

What happens is the finish sinks into the grain over time so it loses that mirror smooth appearance. Then of course it also checks, cracks, flakes, etc. All that stuff is normal for an original finish, but if it has runs and stuff like that and it was just obviously never a professional job then that's a shame

He just said he knows that it was a sunburst.. that's all I really know...

And it wasn't so bad that it had runs but you can see the brush strokes sort of thing... I need to look closer as I only gave it a quick once over but the paint job itself seemed old.. So I think it probably was done in the 60s, the second I looked at it I knew straight away so thus I know it wasn't a great job. But those strokes may actually be cracking...

If you look close at these pics
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:21 PM

Looking at those pics I honestly don't think that was brushed on but I'm not looking at it in person. I think the tell tale would be if the edges have "brush strokes" in a different direction or some obvious indication that it was brushed on.

What I can see looks like it could be an original finish on a well loved guitar

As I'm sure you know, the difference in value between a refinished vintage Strat and an original custom color is HUGE. Black is a really desirable custom color. If that is factory original, you're working on a pretty valuable guitar

And like you said of course it could just be an old refinish. Would be great to hear if the original owner had it painted or what. If his brother was the original owner, and thought it was refinished just because he found the sunburst underneath, it could actually be original. Then again, you know a lot of guys had to have seen Jimi or Clapton with a black Strat and got theirs refinished
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:31 PM

View PostDub-T-123, on 21 July 2017 - 05:21 PM, said:

Looking at those pics I honestly don't think that was brushed on but I'm not looking at it in person. I think the tell tale would be if the edges have "brush strokes" in a different direction or some obvious indication that it was brushed on.

What I can see looks like it could be an original finish on a well loved guitar

As I'm sure you know, the difference in value between a refinished vintage Strat and an original custom color is HUGE. Black is a really desirable custom color. If that is factory original, you're working on a pretty valuable guitar

And like you said of course it could just be an old refinish. Would be great to hear if the original owner had it painted or what. If his brother was the original owner, and thought it was refinished just because he found the sunburst underneath, it could actually be original. Then again, you know a lot of guys had to have seen Jimi or Clapton with a black Strat and got theirs refinished

Yeah.. its one of those things you need to be a REAL expert on to tell... While I know a fair amount im still learning too (as we all are :)) Which is why small projects like this are cool it makes me want to learn about the history more. But as I say, I spotted it within seconds of picking it up..

I will give it a good look over when I service it... And the guy is on holiday now till the 2nd Aug so when I give it back to him I will see what he knows about its history [thumbup]
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:49 PM

View PostRabs, on 21 July 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:


I will give it a good look over when I service it... And the guy is on holiday now till the 2nd Aug so when I give it back to him I will see what he knows about its history [thumbup]


So screw the paint... how's the sumb!tch sound, Rabs?
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:50 PM

View PostRabs, on 21 July 2017 - 05:31 PM, said:

Yeah.. its one of those things you need to be a REAL expert on to tell... While I know a fair amount im still learning too (as we all are :)) Which is why small projects like this are cool it makes me want to learn about the history more. But as I say, I spotted it within seconds of picking it up..

I will give it a good look over when I service it... And the guy is on holiday now till the 2nd Aug so when I give it back to him I will see what he knows about its history [thumbup]

I hope you enjoy playing with it while you got it! One of my buddies let me borrow an L series Mustang for a while and I have never played such a good sounding Fender but the neck was so tiny it was really hard to play. Couldn't have been more than 1 9/16" nut width. If I could get that sound with a normal neck I would be in heaven, so these L series Strats and Teles really pique my interest

Basically if I lived near you I would be running over to your house right now [laugh]
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:54 PM

View Postsurfpup, on 21 July 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

So screw the paint... how's the sumb!tch sound, Rabs?

Yeah I will do that before I take anything apart and see whats working and what may need a clean... I may video it and do some measurements... Its the kind of thing people seem interested in, those small details.
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:56 PM

View PostDub-T-123, on 21 July 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

I hope you enjoy playing with it while you got it! One of my buddies let me borrow an L series Mustang for a while and I have never played such a good sounding Fender but the neck was so tiny it was really hard to play. Couldn't have been more than 1 9/16" nut width. If I could get that sound with a normal neck I would be in heaven, so these L series Strats and Teles really pique my interest

Basically if I lived near you I would be running over to your house right now [laugh]

And you would be very welcome too :)

Yeah its cool to be able to have the chance to examine such a specimen..
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 06:05 PM

View PostRabs, on 21 July 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

Yeah I will do that before I take anything apart and see whats working and what may need a clean... I may video it and do some measurements... Its the kind of thing people seem interested in, those small details.


You're a master of restraint, a monk or something, I would've had that sucker plugged in the second I walked in the door!
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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:08 PM

View Postsurfpup, on 21 July 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

You're a master of restraint, a monk or something, I would've had that sucker plugged in the second I walked in the door!

Lol.. Well actually all I have in my work area is a small Marshall MGFX so it probably wont ever sound great through that. I should bring it home to play through my tube amp but will probably wait till I finish so it has new strings :)

Maybe it will be one of those moments in a players life and manages to turn me to the dark side with its seductive quacking [lol]
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Posted 22 July 2017 - 06:45 AM

View PostRabs, on 21 July 2017 - 08:08 PM, said:


Maybe it will be one of those moments in a players life and manages to turn me to the dark side with its seductive quacking [lol]


Two words for you.... neck pickup
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Posted 30 July 2017 - 10:31 AM

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 11:22 AM

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Posted 30 July 2017 - 12:25 PM

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[lol] Lube fitting! [lol]
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Posted 02 August 2017 - 11:05 AM

View Postsurfpup, on 21 July 2017 - 04:18 PM, said:

Looks like a fun guitar to work on. Looking forward to seeing those gut shots. Can you do us a favor and measure the output of the pickups whilst you have it on the bench?

Righty.. So I took her apart today...
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Then neck specs
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Posted 02 August 2017 - 12:28 PM

Cool cool COOL man!!

Looks like 3 different pots haha. Original 3 way switch?
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Posted 02 August 2017 - 12:32 PM

View PostDub-T-123, on 02 August 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

Cool cool COOL man!!

Looks like 3 different pots haha. Original 3 way switch?

Lol.. Yes and yes.. :)

And that volume pot.. I don't know who changed it but that looks like a cheapo one to me... Grrrrrrr...

Ohh no.. Actually the switch was replaced from a 3 to a 5 way one. But its also old.
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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:40 AM

Thanks for the Strat porn, Rabs. Someone's definitely been a little sloppy with the solder in there in the past. [biggrin]
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Posted 03 August 2017 - 07:05 PM

View Postsurfpup, on 03 August 2017 - 04:40 AM, said:

Thanks for the Strat porn, Rabs. Someone's definitely been a little sloppy with the solder in there in the past. [biggrin]

You can say that again :)

I was doing some more looking. That other tone pot is a Dimarzio pot...
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And looking at the paint/lacquer.. That's some proper checking going on there
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Posted 06 August 2017 - 01:47 PM

Making some Baby Fat boosters today. I haven't been making these lately, but our boy Doug (Karloff) makes his sound so good that people from Maryland keep ordering them. [thumbup] At this point any orders I get from Eastern Maryland are people who've seen Doug play, so I Decided I'd better make a few to be ready for the aftermath of Doug's next gig. [biggrin]

Also thinking I might start getting these boxes done professionally too - like the Juice Box and Big Toe enclosures. Painting is just a pain in the a$$ to me.

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Made a couple boards for the LPB style booster that I haven't made in a while either. This is such a simple but killer sounding circuit.

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And I must recommend one of these resistor bending tools (see pic above) to my fellow DIYers. This is a vintage one my brother in law found, so I'm not sure if they are still made, but it sure makes bening resistors to a certain span a lot easier! Works for capacitors too. [thumbup]
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Posted 06 August 2017 - 03:29 PM

Cool stuff guys. Rabs that Dimarzio pot looks like it was made by CTS

Just wired up this Strat pickguard

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