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Gibson J-45 rattling noise next to the bridge What can it be (2nd new model, same issue)

#1 User is offline   iliveonthesun 

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:26 PM

Hi there,

as it says in the tiles my new 2016? i think Gibson J-45 has rattling noise next to the bridge.

I got exactly that (or a 2016 model, i donno):
https://www.thomann....t_j-45_228796_2

Rattling noise with the guitar in general mostly only happens only when i play The E and A String, the rattling noise only ocurrs when i play these fets:

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When 1 Play the F fret, it doesn't rattle, when 1 press it very hard. the harder i press, the less there is this rattling noise

I am not joking, saying that I know this could be due to the string being to close to the fretboard. but it surely doesn't look like that.

To my ears this strange sound is located more or less exactly here, or somewhere under it:

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It sounds/seems like these frequencies set something in motion, that resonates inside or close outside, can't say for sure.

I went to take a picture of the guitar's inside, hoping there was something there. Does everything look normal to your eyes?


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And by the way, what is this second hole, that I marked yellow?

The silver clipper that holds the wire seems loose to me?!? Am I right?
It really seems the sound comes eather from something that is resonating or directly from the saddle.

Did anybody experience the same issues?

The guitar is as it came, being new from the seller.


Thanks for helping, I wonder if there us somebody which can tell me what's going on. Thanks a lot

ilots
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:36 PM

Hi ilots, buzzes and rattles can be tricky to track down but here is what I recommend; secure anything loose inside the guitar such as the wire clip in your photos. Next you have to isolate the ends. Put a capo at the first fret, is the rattle gone? Then it's something at the nut. If the rattle is still there, take off the capo and try pushing on the saddle while trying to recreate the noise still there? Then most likely a high fret.
Hope this helps. Welcome here. Odd it is, but I live on the sun as well. Which hemisphere are you in? Maybe we could meet for coffee and a doughnut sometime.
As for the holes they are just alignment holes.
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Posted 19 July 2017 - 04:42 AM

could be the wire clip..

what pickup is that? is there a control plate under the sound board near the hole?

If so.. Try putting your finger on the volume and or blend controls. Those can vibrate when certain notes are struck hard.
/Ray
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:39 AM

Hey there,

Thanks everybody for the replies.

It's either a fret or the nut or the cables inside under the saddle. (i still tend to think it comes from loose cable or so under the saddle)

I will repair the clip, or add a new one.

This is the second model that i got btw.
The first one - a 2017 model also - was an overall catastrophe and it had a lot of issues out of the box (chip of wood missing in the fretboard, horrible paintjob etc.)
It also had the same rattle, more dominant, but still.


But it now the second 2017 J-45 has the same rattle on the first frets of the string.

So maybe it's a stock issue?

I am using the J-45 just as it is, when it came out of the box.

But maybe I have to take it to a Guitar guy. I love the guitar a lot, but when I discovered the rattling noise playing an F powerchord, I was disappointed for sure. Expected a bit more for that sum of money, but anyway.

Live long and prosper
ilots

@ aliasphobias I live in Austria, so it's a long way to the sun ;)
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