Buc McMaster Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Okay. I just couldn't take being demoted by Woof.......cut me to the core, don't ya know. So I had to rectify the situation, make the world right once more....... 2017 J-45 12-fret......ooooo! ahhhh! Now yer talkin'! Does this get me my stripes back, Woof?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Okay. I just couldn't take being demoted by Woof.......cut me to the core, don't ya know. So I had to rectify the situation, make the world right once more....... 2017 J-45 12-fret......ooooo! ahhhh! Now yer talkin'! Does this get me my stripes back, Woof?! 😮😮😮😮 Did the previous 45 and Taylor stay or was one sacrificed? How does the 12 fretter compare to the 14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalex Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 very cool. would be nice to here a tune with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 The Taylor, it seems, was just visiting.......stayed for the weekend and, after behaving badly, was sent packing. Nah......behaved well enough, just a bit overweight. Figured I'd best correct things while the iron was still hot, so now the J-45 Vintage has a younger brother to kick around (as brothers are sometimes wont to do!). It'll take a little while to fiddle with it, get it dialed in......string choice, rod adjustment, saddle tweaking, etc.......but it's a sweetie! Sound check when it's ready to rock........ Open geared nickel Gotohs, pearl headstock logo, factory electronics (which will stay in this one), bone saddle/tusq nut (spec says tusq saddle but this one is indeed bone). Burst is kind of golden looking......I think it needs some sun. There was a J-35 Collectors Edition there too. Cooked red spruce top and no electronics......like a J-35 Vintage would be, I reckon. It sounded absolutely incredible.....Gibson to the nines! But.........it had a rather sorry neck set so I had to pass on that one. Very, very good Gibson tone though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidblast Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 you are having just way too much fun here.... They're coming and going like a burger king drive thru... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanCarlosVejar Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Wow, That was quick ! Nice 12 fret. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duluthdan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Lefty J-45 12-fret. Gotta be some kind of rare jewell there. Glad you got your sanity back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroAussie Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Thats gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionMark Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Now that new addition to your stable is an awesome, interesting, and intriguing guitar! I like it! ( I want one!) QM aka Jazzman Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 That dramatically different placed sound hole catches my eye. Something else - gotta play a significant sonic role. Look forward to hear it/them. Enjoy the turbulence, , , and may it be limited to the guitars around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Nice! Welcome back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesKing777 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Ha ha, I don't believe it! I assume they are all from the same guitar shop? Hey, looks really nice. Factory electronics too - Baggs? Please buy one of these to try with the Baggs, Buc - just ideal for live: https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AuraSpectDI BluesKing777. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I didn't want to say anything - but I never liked that Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 A few hours in, the short-necked 45 is.......magnificent! Took the saddle down a bit (and it still has a bit more to go at the next string change) and strung it with 80/20 Masterbuilts. Tweaked the rod a little and dug in for an hour or so. Nice, nice......but monels on the long-neck 45 have apparently ruined my ears.......gotta have that thump! There was a little fret rattle on the 4th string at the second and third frets with the bronze but I decided to wait until it was strung with monels to make another rod adjustment. (I like right next to zero relief.) Whipped off the 80/20s and wound up the .012 Retros........what a string for a spruce/mahogany guitar! Still a bit of rattle on the 4th but a 1/4 turn of the rod made it disappear. Setup is getting close...... As for tone, the 12-fret is just a little brighter in the top end and a little stronger on the low side. Not sure where to place the reason for this: the top is sitka, not adirondack, and of course the bridge is deeper on the body. Never played a 12-fretter before so I reckon there's some learning to do. It's not as aggressive sounding as the 14-fret, smoother perhaps. The neck profile is just a shade smaller with a very slight V in it. There is a distinct difference in how the 12 feels slung over the shoulder and grabbed......the nut is noticeably closer, not near the reach of the 14. When capo-ed high (5th) I do notice my hand seems much closer to the heel.......no interference, but certainly noticeable. The bridge being deep on the body moves my natural pick hand position closer to the sound hole by a little but doesn't present a troublesome adjustment to get on the pins for palm muting (which I do a lot of). The Gotoh machines are very smooth and pull the strings up accurately to pitch.....well......ok......a half step down. So far, all in all I think I did the right thing here. The Taylor was nice but it's really not my style......and the damn thing was freakin' heavy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Running the risk of bein' pedantic (no, not really), I think it should be mentioned that one of these slopes only have 19 frets - you do the counting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Now you went and made me feel bad. But that is one heck of a comeback. Dare I say it - a rising. I would say you have blown right past journeyman and the wipe on, wipe off stage and straight back up to Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The Taylor was a nice workhorse but this is next level stuff...you've gone from troposphere straight to mesosphere! I've never owned a Gibson 12 fretter but I've owned a couple of others and really like the vibe of them. I'm quite used to playing long scale 14 fretters so it takes a while to adjust but they're an amazing playing experience and I love that you've got two similar-but-very-different workhorses in the stable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Oh you son of a bit....... That's a cracker I do like those guitars . Can't wait to hear that one Did you even get a clip of the taylor recorded ? Would've been interested to hear what it sounded like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I never really played that Taylor..... Just wanted to make you feel better...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Bob who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 .........straight back up to Master. Yaaaaa! \:D/ Just funnin' ya, Woof! And no, Grunt, did not record the Taylor. I thought I might could deal with it's weight but figured why? The 12 is a bit heavier than the 14 with the active electronics onboard but not to the point it's a problem. I hope to keep this system in the guitar and will make that decision after a few stage runs.........it could end up with a K&K or maybe some other passive system if I don't like what I hear........ I'm going to call this one my 65th birthday present to myself.........life is good! The 12 fret is wonderful and, as Jinder notes, this pair is similar but quite different, in tone and feel. Sitting side by side the shorter neck makes the whole guitar look smaller than the 14 fret but it's the same body size & shape. I'm real happy with this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Short video of the 12-fret v. the 14-fret J-45s.......... The 14 is louder, seems to have more clarity, while the 12 is quieter and a little sweeter in tone. Adirondack v. sitka, 14 frets v. 12. I can really hear the aggressive sound of the red spruce here.......biting and strong. The sitka is much more reserved. .012 Martin Retros, half step down, capo 1, BC TP50 pick.........same on both instruments. What you think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR3D8fAISM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Those Martin retros REALLY suit the 14 fretter don't they? What a sound! The 14 sounds like it has more miles on it than the 12 but both sound great. I get the impression that when the 12's bottom end loosens up a touch over the next year or so it will be a monster. The red spruce is really quick and direct isn't it? I can hear how the top is set in motion immediately with no hesitation or delay, whereas the Sitka seems to hear the string and take a fraction longer to "join in" as it were. Really interesting stuff, Buc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwalker201 Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 two beautiful guitars to have Buc. I don't see you trading these anytime soon. Lets hear a little Merle Haggard tune from you with that new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Both gorgeous I'm kinda drawn to the second , seems nice and gentle . Completely depend on what songs a man wants to play I'd pick the second but I might make it sound worse than the first one And many happy returns buc. You don't look a day over 63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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