Jinder Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Hi all, I was idly browsing teh interwebz today (as you do) when a google ad popped up advertising the new Sigma copies of classic Gibsons, such as this hair-raisingly litigiousness-friendly rip off of an AJ: http://www.sigma-guitars.com/guitars/sg-series/jr-sg-advanced/ These are selling in the U.K. For around £550 with Fishman electronics. I'm amazed that Gibson haven't intervened, their SJ200 and L-00 copies are similarly accurate looking. Has anyone played one? Are they just generic Pac Rim laminate copies that are all show and no go, or are they any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim35 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Looks decent...I dont think Sigma are available in the U.S. maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buc McMaster Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Sigma used to produce Martin knock-offs for Martin........Nazareth's imported economy line. If they have no such arrangement with Gibson I think they ought to be arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I've tried Gibson copies... including the AJ45ME from Epi, and the AJ500 M Masterbilt... where you have to be lucky to "get a good one", or lest it's a box of problems and thud. I have played the Sigma Martin 15 series copies. Brothers Music in Wind Gap PA has a few still. Big meh. The only good "copies" I have tried are the Farida OT22, which you can buy from Elderly, and the Eastman E10/20 SS guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el capitan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Blue Ridge, Recording King & Sigma all good. Epiphone OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuestionMark Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 These Sigmas should not be confused with the Sigma brand that CF Martin started and owned and then disbanded. These are from a different company that started producing Sigma brand guitars and then were not allowed to sell them in the US (it is my understanding) until a certain period of time lapsed because the name still had some restrictions on using it in the US until some time period because of Martin's former distribution of the name in the US that they did not previously relinquish. I don't know the exact time frame or what exactly happened, but that is the gist of it. I read it someplace when I was trying to track down the date of origin on a Martin Sigma guitar that someone gave to me. It was then I learned there is now a different unrelated to Martin company now using the Sigma name overseas. That is all I know. The Martin Sigma guitar I have is astonishingly very good and it's full rich sound tells me it' has to be solid wood at least it's top. Maybe more. The label on mine refers to the Martin Company on its label. The little research I could find on the prior Martin Sigmas was that some were bad and some were good, all of them being inexpensive. If anyone knows any more on this new Sigma (non-Martin) brand, please share more with us in the US. QM aka Jazzman Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacamartin Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Jinder.....wish I could find that L-00 to try! I can tell you Alvarez delta blues line-up hits a winner too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobster Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 A few good vids from Andertons: I've played a few of all the new models (the j-45, L-oo, hummingbird, sj-100 and 200 models) they are really excellent guitars for the money although not as good as the real thing of course. The SG-200 model is very good indeed and extremely loud although laminate maple: http://www.sigma-guitars.com/guitars/sg-series/gja-sg200/ Now there is also an all solid limited edition j-45 style model with walnut which i thought was really outstanding and as good as many a standard j-45 model that i have played: http://www.sigma-guitars.com/guitars/limited-edition/sjw-sg45/ I really do like the AMI Sigma's and I own one of there very limited and now discontinued Martin copies (All solid Adirondack/solid Madi Dreadnought). Its an immense sounding guitar! Their all solid limited edition models are a huge step up but not cheap. To me Eastman and the all solid sigma's represent excellent quality and value for money. Overall i prefer Eastman because off their much larger range of all solid guitars. If you are happy with laminate guitars though and want traditional models in the vein of Martin and Gibson then Sigma produce the best i've heard at very reasonable prices. They would make high quality beaters as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 As long as they avoid the Open Book headstock and stick with that Kay-esque design I am guessing nobody is going to get their panties in a wad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 I spent half an hour with a Sigma OM28VS in Linz today. Absolutely stellar guitar for the money, I would have bought it on the spot if not for the logistical nightmare of getting it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I spent half an hour with a Sigma OM28VS in Linz today. Absolutely stellar guitar for the money, I would have bought it on the spot if not for the logistical nightmare of getting it home. I can't find any info when searching for om28vs Is that definite model number jinder ? Is the V in the neck a major one ? I don't like V's My friend inherited my sigma d45 that I bought about 25 years ago , his daughter knocked it over and it's head fell off He got it repaired and owns it still. Is a lovely guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickthemiller Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hi all, I was idly browsing teh interwebz today (as you do) when a google ad popped up advertising the new Sigma copies of classic Gibsons, such as this hair-raisingly litigiousness-friendly rip off of an AJ: http://www.sigma-gui...jr-sg-advanced/ These are selling in the U.K. For around £550 with Fishman electronics. I'm amazed that Gibson haven't intervened, their SJ200 and L-00 copies are similarly accurate looking. Has anyone played one? Are they just generic Pac Rim laminate copies that are all show and no go, or are they any good? Funny you should ask. Not the advanced model, they are way more than £550 but these are very nice. Look here http://www.acousticg...ad.php?t=479399 I just bought one and I'm really impressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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