fretplay Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Can any member tell me the significance between a white or orange label in the sound hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 White is standard label Orange usually signifies some sort of special model ie. j45 historic model Hopefully someone else will back me up here but I’m pretty sure I’m right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 As far as current production, that's what I've observed as well. Older instruments (1950's and 1960's are a different story). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 My 13 year old is a standard with an orange label. So, I think the standardization occurred sometime shortly after that. It was after that, I believe, that Bozeman stopped accepting one-off custom orders from individual consumers and shifted to creating 'custom/limited edition' runs (usually of 50) primarily for their 5 star dealers. A wise business decision, imho. Maybe the label guy came up with the idea !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 A wise business decision, imho. Maybe the label guy came up with the idea !? I betcha it was the Gibson marketing guys. They probably spent a couple $100K on a study of which color would be the most likely to entice us to part with even greater amounts of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just marketing nonsense, see this from 2007: http://archive.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/ProductSpotlight/GearAndInstruments/True%20Vintage%20and%20Modern%20Classi/ All True Vintage models feature: • Traditional binding over fret ends • Traditional tuners • Genuine bone nut and saddle • Extra dark vintage-look amber toner • Traditional orange label Not sure when they switched to the white labels, my 1974 J-50 has the orange label, my 2008 has the white label and my 1965 doesn't have any label, just a faded stamp on the wood that says "J50 ADJ BRIDGE". :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-1854Me Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Orange-labelled guitars have a richer, deeper, more complex sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalex Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I believe orange label Gibson's hold there value better.....more authentic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneS Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I believe the orange labels are the new black labels. 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly campbell Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I believe the orange labels are the new black labels. 😋 LOL I like the way you think Anne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Orange-labelled guitars have a richer, deeper, more complex sound. Someone once asked Keith Richards which guitars he preferred. He answered black ones as they always sounded better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Not sure when they switched to the white labels, my 1974 J-50 has the orange label, my 2008 has the white label and my 1965 doesn't have any label, just a faded stamp on the wood that says "J50 ADJ BRIDGE". :) My early 1963 B45-12 was one of the first square shoulder versions built. It had a white label like those Gibson used in their classical guitars. Based on the binding which was unlike any other B45-12 I had ever seen, I always suspected it was there to cover Hummingbird (which was the only square shoulder Gibson at the time to have that binding). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I believe the orange labels are the new black labels. �� Hehe. . . I actually think the orange labels can be a overwhelming if one gives them too much focus. They tend to blend with a TV Bird, but stand out in connection with fx the pale topped dark-red-back/sided Firebird. Same with a serious dark-burst 45 or SJ. After all pang-orange is a sale-poster-color and kind of burdened by that. But now you say black label - why not, , , with negative white writing. Sounds rather cühl to me. P.S. - Glad the dear Country Western label never came in orange. That lasso within the uneven cloud-like oval demands white. Trick-photo ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I have decided to take a stand against guitar labelling in general!!! Each guitar should be judged on its own merits, and labels cast undue aspersions😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 AGREE! And, I think every guitar should get a Trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Can any member tell me the significance between a white or orange label in the sound hole? Currently, white labels denote standard models and orange labels denote "Custom Shop" or limited runs. The custom shop guitars are typically standard models made in the same shop by the same people, but have specs that are non-standard in some way, i.e. different tuners, different burst colors, different nut and saddle material, different tonewoods, different electronics, etc. Many of the limited runs are made in quantities of 50 -150 and as someone has already mentioned they are typically sold at Gibson's Five Star dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobouz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Both my 2000 J-100xtra & 2002 J-45 Rosewood, which were standard models, have orange labels. The switch to white labels came a few years later, but not sure exactly when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Orange you glad you started this Thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 An explanation of why you wanted to know would’ve helped and made the answers more concise and helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 We're a generally helpful lot, though not always concise😃 If I had one $ for every time a student asked me to respond "in the short form", I could probably buy a nice vintage Gibson later today😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyd Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Currently, white labels denote standard models and orange labels denote "Custom Shop" or limited runs. See the Gibson link I posted above, it says that all "True Vintage" models have orange labels. Have never seen a true vintage myself though. Are they considered custom shop or limited run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretplay Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Well! did see a J185 with a maple back and sides but the maple was smooth not birds eye and it had a White Label. I have a Gibson Cascade this has birds eye maple back with an Orange label. Are Orange Label guitars better, or shorter runs or just another colour An explanation of why you wanted to know would've helped and made the answers more concise and helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretplay Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Yep! starting to wonder!! Orange you glad you started this Thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretplay Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Ah! now I have a CJ165 best get up, gold hard and ebony fretboard, no longer in production but White Label. See the Gibson link I posted above, it says that all "True Vintage" models have orange labels. Have never seen a true vintage myself though. Are they considered custom shop or limited run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Don't forget the Norlin era's square uni-orange-white-black labels (or the ones from the Anniversary-period). And check my artificial CW lasso-label on the previous side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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