Victory Pete Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I put all my acoustics in their cases 2 months ago. Today I pulled out my J-45 Custom and my SJ-200 1938. The J-45 Custom was lively and fun and the SJ-200 1938 was dead and boring. Same strings same age. My theory is that the J-45 can tolerate older strings better because it has less string tension and the top is braced lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinder Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I put all my acoustics in their cases 2 months ago. Today I pulled out my J-45 Custom and my SJ-200 1938. The J-45 Custom was lively and fun and the SJ-200 1938 was dead and boring. Same strings same age. My theory is that the J-45 can tolerate older strings better because it has less string tension and the top is braced lighter. Jumbos don't do old strings well. Too much top to set in motion, and the reduced resonance of old strings chop the top end and upper mids off. Smaller guitars get funky with old strings, jumbos just die off...but with new/played in strings...😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ah it’s all subjective Someone else may like the one you don’t and vice versa Good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneS Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Jumbos don't do old strings well. Too much top to set in motion, and the reduced resonance of old strings chop the top end and upper mids off. Smaller guitars get funky with old strings, jumbos just die off...but with new/played in strings...😍 This has been my experience--and theory, too. Another jumbo/slope difference I've observed is--my maple/sitka j100j loves to live outside of its case, but my adi/hog j45 gets dull. The former has to wake up a bit if it's been in the case for a bit, whereas the latter wakes up all perky when I open the lid. I know it could be the wood or even the strings, but something tells me the reason for this might be in the build (bracings, shape). Anyone else observe case-related behavior differences? (This summer, the humidy conditions inside have been steady and perfect indoors, so that variable has been consistent.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 Ah it's all subjective Someone else may like the one you don't and vice versa Good grief No, dead sound is dead sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 Jumbos don't do old strings well. Too much top to set in motion, and the reduced resonance of old strings chop the top end and upper mids off. Smaller guitars get funky with old strings, jumbos just die off...but with new/played in strings...😍 Seems to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 No, dead sound is dead sound. Just what is dead sound ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortyearspickn Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just what is dead sound ?? It's when you misplace the socks you wore all week inside the sound hole. Similar to Swimmer's Ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCowboy Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 It's when you misplace the socks you wore all week inside the sound hole. Similar to Swimmer's Ear. I thought that was "dead smell", as in 'what's that dead smell coming from your guitar?'. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just what is dead sound ?? If you don't know then I think you need to have your ears checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 No, dead sound is dead sound. Just what is dead sound ?? If you don't know then I think you need to have your ears checked. So will I, , , and you too, who knows. Though I see what you mean, I tend to believe things aren't that simple. Of course most of us know when a guitar fades out and gets kind of sour. But when exactly that point is reached is relative from person to person and instrument to instrument. The squares here fx simply sound so right and so much 'themselves' as time goes by. I don't like new strings much and some of the guitars around seem go on 'forever' with old bronze. This new angle came to me after discovering scalloped and light bracing. The way they respond is so different from the bulkier earlier acoustics and it sets a whole other game. Has to do with the vibes of the wood. The lighter constructions give access to more vibration, which again shows other dimensions in the guitars. They come to theír right in another freer way and that allows them to reveal secrets the heavier boxes inhibited. What a revelation it is. Imagine a set of old lights (12-54) on a vintage J-45. They'll bring the dry characteristics forward in the absolutely right manner. Will the strings be dead – perhaps. Will the sound – no way. Then imagine the same highly nuanced old slope with overcoated strings more or less covering up the genuine voice of the creature. Combinations of factors like these go on and on. One have to listen'n'feel to get it right, , , and 1 man's ceiling is another man's floor. Look at Grateful Dead, , , didn't they name themselves after the virtues of totally jaded strings - puristic non-vain insightful sages as thew were. . ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Pardon ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 So will I, , , and you too, who knows. Though I see what you mean, I tend to believe things aren't that simple. Of course most of us know when a guitar fades out and gets kind of sour. But when exactly that point is reached is relative from person to person and instrument to instrument. The squares here fx simply sound so right and so much 'themselves' as time goes by. I don't like new strings much and some of the guitars around seem go on 'forever' with old bronze. This new angle came to me after discovering scalloped and light bracing. The way they respond is so different from the bulkier earlier acoustics and it sets a whole other game. Has to do with the vibes of the wood. The lighter constructions give access to more vibration, which again shows another dimension in the guitars. They come to theír right in another freer way and that allows them to reveal secrets the heavier boxes inhibited. What a revelation it is. Imagine a set of old lights (12-54) on a vintage J-45. They'll bring the dry characteristics forward in the absolutely right manner. Will the strings be dead – perhaps. Will the sound – no way. Then imagine the same highly nuanced old slope with overcoated strings more or less covering up the genuine voice of the creature. Combinations of factors like these go on and on. One have to listen'n'feel to get it right, , , and 1 man's ceiling is another man's floor. Look at Grateful Dead, , , didn't they name themselves after the virtues of totally jaded strings - puristic non-vain insightful sages as thew were. . ;-) A friend of mine sold his dads 1957 Southern Jumbo to another friend of mine. At one point unplayed strings that I had put on a few months before were unequivocally dead, no pulse, nadda, sounded terrible. New strings were put on and it was resurrected, lively and bright sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 A friend of mine sold his dads 1957 Southern Jumbo to another friend of mine. At one point unplayed strings that I had put on a few months before were unequivocally dead, no pulse, nadda, sounded terrible. New strings were put on and it was resurrected, lively and bright sounding. There you go then Case solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 There you go then Case solved It was always solved, dead strings are just that, dead strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindboygrunt Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 It was always solved, dead strings are just that, dead strings. Yip Only thing is .... Some like dead strings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yip Only thing is .... Some like dead strings Not the only thing. Many, many people hate dead strings. I have a stash of casualties waiting to be recycled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Not the only thing. Many, many people hate dead strings. I have a stash of casualties waiting to be recycled. Wow what a scam, I have to upgrade my account for $399 to be able to post pictures here, WTF is this BS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Pete Posted September 3, 2017 Author Share Posted September 3, 2017 Why cant pictures be posted here without a huge hassle, WTF is going on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisrownSal Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Step off the roof. Take a hit... Exhale. That has nothing to do with Gibson Forum. That's the Photobucket product that you choose to use, or not use. They changed their policy. It's a photobucket issue. Many of us have dropped our PB accounts a while ago because of this policy. There are many free options out there. IMGUR is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 IMGUR is one. Thx - I'm in. But how do I move the pics over here ? , , , tried the different copy-options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Thx - I'm in. But how do I move the pics over here ? , , , tried the different copy-options. Sounds like you're looking to do a bulk move of all pics to imgur? 'Not sure on that part; however, I'm still able to view my Photobucket albums, find the pic I'm looking to use, download to my computer, and drag that file to imgur's "add images" box. Also- most of those pics at Photobucket were screen captures, and they're still on the "all my files" view (Mac), and just drag to imgur from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-minor7 Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Sounds like you're looking to do a bulk move of all pics to imgur? Not really - just wanna get a photo up here on the B. Though it could be a good idea to change bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62burst Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 On imgur, select "images" from the drop-down tab near your i.d., find your uploaded image your want to share or edit, clicking on that brings up the edit/share. Choose "direct" (right column on that page) tab which automatically copies it to your clipboard, then the usual insert image button here on the board reply box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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