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#21 User is offline   bacongrease 

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 06:20 PM

View Postcrust, on 13 September 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

In my humble opinion most Epiphone instruments are perfect "as is" , straight out of the box. But , that's just me , maybe Posted Image

With epiphones—Casady, Emperor—no mods. Remove a pickguard maybe but no major changes besides strings.
With Fender style, mod to no end.
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#22 User is offline   LPSpII 

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 11:43 PM

You all inspired me to try a mod. I bought one of the Epiphone Les Paul P90 on sale for $100. I also bought some $50 Grover tulip tuners to replace the stock ones, new strings, new torq nut. I had to enlarge the holes for the tuners, but that was easy. My guitar is so freaking kickass now, I’d want $300 minimim for it. Rock on!
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#23 User is online   Pinch 

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 08:40 AM

My attitude is, guitars are expensive. So if I buy one, it has to be perfect from the start.
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#24 User is offline   BuddyHollywood 

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 10:55 AM

I'll play a guitar for a while as is and see where the journey will take me. If I feel I can enhance the sound or the performance of a guitar I will mod it. On my Gretsch G6128T-DSV Duo Jet I modded a few things on it. First, I can't believe guitar manufacturers feel it's OK to install any kind of plastic nut on a high end guitar. Also one of the slots, I think it was the B string was cut too deep. I replaced that with a brass nut to enhance the twang. The rest of the mods I did on this guitar were personal touches. This guitar has a floating bridge so I experimented with a few different bridges until I settled on an Aluminum Tru-Arc Serpentune bridge. I also heard the the original Duo Jets from the 1950s came with 1 meg pots. I loved the inherent tone of the guitar but after installing 1 meg pots on another guitar and hearing the difference I decided to do the same to my Duo Jet. I love the results. I also flipped the Dynasonic pickups 180 degrees so the poles are facing inside instead of outside. I noticed on the stock Gretsch Dynasonics in this guitar that the bridge pickup was a little thin and the neck pickup was a little boomy. Flipping the pickups solved that issue. I didn't want to replace pickups that I loved the sound of but was just about ready to splurge on some TV Jones pickups when I tried this as a last ditch effort. I'm glad I did!

For my 50th Anniversary Epiphone Casino I only made 2 mods. One was to install a Lollar P90 spacer under the bridge pickup to raise it up to balance the output of the neck pickup. It's perfect now. I left the original plastic nut in there until one of the slots got cut deeper from the string. Again, why would a guitar manufacturer place a cheap plastic nut of any kind on a quality electric guitar? It boggles my mind. I replaced the stock nut with a bone nut. I bought this guitar used and the previous owner threw away the pickguard which was OK with me because I would have removed it anyway.

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Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:15 PM

View PostRevolution Six, on 15 September 2017 - 07:02 AM, said:

It is necessary to upgrade an Epiphone.

Tuners

Pickups

Potentiometers

wiring

Toggle switch

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I am going to have to disagree with you.
And I think it really depends on what model Epi we are talking about. The basic "Student/Entry" level models, i would not mod, it is far less expensive to replace them with an upscale model.
My Les Paul Plus top pro already has better stuff in it, and the pick up sound wonderful.
The last guitar I "Upgraded" was a Mexican strat, buy the time I got the new pick ups and scratchplace and better cap in it, I could have bought and American standard.

My LP pro here has only two thing done to it, a screw on Dimarzio strap (So it won't fall) and a clear scatchplate so that beautiful top can be seen. I also changed the strings to Optima Gold strings.

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I called enhancements more then mods, as there all reversible and enhance it's playing.
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Posted 01 December 2017 - 02:54 PM

View PostJeffytune, on 23 November 2017 - 05:15 PM, said:

I am going to have to disagree with you.
And I think it really depends on what model Epi we are talking about. The basic "Student/Entry" level models, i would not mod, it is far less expensive to replace them with an upscale model.
My Les Paul Plus top pro already has better stuff in it, and the pick up sound wonderful.
The last guitar I "Upgraded" was a Mexican strat, buy the time I got the new pick ups and scratchplace and better cap in it, I could have bought and American standard.

My LP pro here has only two thing done to it, a screw on Dimarzio strap (So it won't fall) and a clear scatchplate so that beautiful top can be seen. I also changed the strings to Optima Gold strings.

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I called enhancements more then mods, as there all reversible and enhance it's playing.


That's one nice guitar! I like it!
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#27 User is offline   chillybilly 

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 08:02 AM

I regard a mod as a significant replacement or addition of components, usually pickups or electronics. Installing a Bigsby is obviously a mod.

I regard most other things as improvements. If we consider certain parts in high-end guitars it's obvious they yield an insanely high margin per part eg Grover 18:1 tuners.

Changing tuners, switches, nuts and bridges is a small price to pay for stability, a lack of headaches, peace of mind, etc. Mass-produced guitars have advanced light years in terms of variances/tolerances thanks to automation but haste still makes waste and attention to detail - and alterations thereof - will ultimately pay off in playability and tone.
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#28 User is offline   stevo58 

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 12:28 PM

I have no problem modding a guitar. I have two Epis, a Casino and a Dot, and both are heavily modified. Tuners, nut, bridge, pickups, pots, switch, jack, even the strap buttons. Replaced the stop on the Dot with a trapeze, and a DeLisle Pentatone will be going in there soon, too.

F-hole guitars should have sealed pots, period. I put Bourns 95 (or 82 when I can find them) in open guitars.

I have three custom-built guitars which I of course did not mod because I spec’d them exactly as I wanted in the first place.

I even modded my beloved Martin OM-21 - Waverlies, Greven pickguard, strap locks, pickup, Buffalo horn pins.

I like the Epis. They are my cheapest guitars but they play well and sound good, and get a lot of playing time.

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#29 User is offline   Bad penguin 

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:49 PM

If I buy a guitar, it's because I fell in like with the bare bones of the guitar. Everything else is modifiable. Pickups, oh hell yes. Nut, bridge, tuners, whatever, again yes. Blowtorch or bandsaw, whatever it takes to bring out the best of that guitar. Sometimes, nothing gets done, because it just right. 97 Sheraton II is a perfect example of that, same with my 79 Genesis. My Peerless made Casino? Had the guts ripped out and replaced within ten minutes of walking in the door. Also threw out the rattle tarp bridge that came with it.
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Posted 04 January 2018 - 09:11 PM

I liked my 2004 Sheraton enough to buy it (cheap and second-hand), then the fun started. Now, it still has its original strap buttons and tailpiece. And it's a great guitar, exactly as I want it, and it feels and sounds like a very much more expensive instrument. I couldn't have afforded to go and buy something of a similar spec outright. Modding meant I could buy bits when I was able, and experiment with pickups to get it as I wanted it.

The basic construction of a guitar has to be sound though, for it to be worth modding. Some things just won't be worth the effort.
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1973 EA250.
2004 Sheraton II with TonePros bridge, Bare Knuckle Mississippi Queen, and TV Jones T-90 at the bridge.
PR-200 acoustic.
Valve Junior with mods by Alnicomagnet, Power Scaling, and Celestion Eight 15.
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 04:17 PM

If i ever gonna mod a guitar, it is because you can't buy it like say a strat with dirty fingers.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:21 PM

When I buy a guitar, it's because I love the way it looks, plays, feels and sounds but not necessarily in that order. If it suits me in all other categories but needs a little something, I don't mind modifying it. If it's an expensive guitar, I will keep the original parts for resale value. A lot of us used to throw in DiMarzio's back in the day in a less expensive guitar, if the action was great and it looked good. I have a $200.00 guitar that I put a couple new pickups in, a Kahler locking whammy, and it's been a guitar that's stood the test of time since buying it used in 1983. But, it's my guitar and I'll do with it what I want.

If I spend a lot of money on a guitar, I'll want it pretty much perfect with no mods.
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 06:18 AM

View PostSleeko, on 12 September 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

[tongue] Nope not a modder here. I buy them because I like them so I have no desire to change them.


+1 :-)

On VERY few occasions I have bought a git and either HAD to mod it (dead pup(s) or other electrical problem) or I knew that the git played great but the PO previously "modded" it and I was putting it back to the way it left the factory.
Funny over the years I collected a slew of pups (maybe 20 or so from SD, Benedetto, Gibson, Schaller, Dimarzio, Bartolini, Ibanez) and have only used one pair in a Harmony 335 clone which had pups that were dead.




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Posted 19 January 2018 - 07:16 AM

The Gibsons I could effort were not "hot" enough for my style of music, so I changed the pickups on all of em. It would restrict me to a quite tiny circle of guitars if I would try to 100% match my desires in terms of shape, color, electronics etc. So I virtually always want to change something.
Beside pickups I often install strap-locks and do "soft-mods" like string-wrapping.
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Posted 19 January 2018 - 10:54 AM

An Epiphone need good pickups, Switchcraft selector, CTS or equivalent potentiometers, sometimes tuners are really bad.
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